Frontier Dark Fiber

Jay R. Ashworth jra at
Wed Aug 3 17:06:04 UTC 2022

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brandon Martin" <lists.nanog at>

> On 8/3/22 11:16, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>> I wouldn't have thought that Frontier was able to offer dark fiber,
>> since air distribution fan out is all GPON, is it not?
>> If their fanout was active ethernet it might be a different story but...
> They have access to/control of a large amount of mid-mile and long-haul
> fiber built by/as GTE and Verizon.  Additionally, while their resi/soho
> distribution is all PON, they do have some excess fiber fairly deep into
> their network in most markets and actively offer active-E service on it
> for the right price (it can even occasionally be competitive).  I
> imagine they'd sell dark for the right price as well, though you may not
> like that "right" price.

Yeah, FU pricing ain't uncommon.

Thanks for the clarification.

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