Copper Termination Blocks

Fri Apr 15 13:57:58 UTC 2022

Marty knows a thing or two about the history and current state of affairs
in this world.... :)

Pretty much all of the major LECs have set the goal of full copper
retirement. But that is a long way away.

On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 8:58 PM Shane Ronan <shane at ronan-online.com> wrote:

> I think you'd be very surprised if you walked into the central offices of
> MANY of the large LECs.
>
> The majority of the wire frames are gone, replaced with fiber, even where
> the service is delivered as copper to the end user, it's usually served
> from something fiber fed much closer to the end user.
>
> I can tell you that one MAJOR LEC has a major push going on to retire ALL
> copper.
>
> Shane
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 6:54 PM Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Its not ancient. While cooper based products are slowly fading they still
>> matter. Im using 66 blocks to accommodate gauge/voltage for dial tone in
>> all facilities.  Lots of OOB still happens via copper dial tone or DSL.
>> Show me one LEC that has torn down their wire frame?
>>
>> We bought new.  Im seeing this product on the intertubes new at $18 per
>> block. We didn’t mount distribution from LEC in rack. Instead we placed the
>> standard 5/8’s plywood backboard and mounted there. We transition to a 110
>> block in a rack over ladder tray via ABAM cable to deliver to the back of a
>> 110  block and patch from front. Not perfect, but cost effective, easy to
>> manage and simple. It works.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> -M<
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 16:14 Mike Hammett <nanog at ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I know I'm discussing what some consider ancient technology. I counter
>>> that it meets or exceeds the needs of many, many people.
>>>
>>> Currently, we use 100-pr Telect-style termination blocks. They don't
>>> offer much in terms of ease of use for testing and don't organize well on a
>>> 19" or 23" rack.
>>>
>>> I was recommended to look at Krone blocks. They look just great. Easy to
>>> break into for testing with their "look both ways" plug as well as their
>>> preterminated blocks looked much easier to rack-mount.
>>>
>>> Well, Krone was bought by ADC. ADC was bought by Tyco Electronics. TE
>>> was bought by Commscope. Commscope discontinued everything I found
>>> interesting with no replacements.
>>>
>>>
>>> Some of the stuff is on eBay (even NIB), some not.
>>>
>>> Any recommendations for places to get old telco blocks, testers, mounts,
>>> etc.?
>>>
>>> Any recommendations for alternatives that are easier to source?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> Midwest-IX
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>
>>
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