Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported re: 202203261833.AYC

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Fri Apr 1 00:23:13 UTC 2022



> On Mar 31, 2022, at 15:32 , Joe Maimon <jmaimon at jmaimon.com> wrote:
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> Matthew Petach wrote:
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>> In short, at the moment, you *can't* deploy IPv6 without also having IPv4
>> somewhere in your network.  IPv6 hasn't solved the problem of IPv4
>> address shortage, because you can't functionally deploy IPv6 without
>> also having at least some IPv4 addresses to act as endpoints.
>> 
>> For the people who already have IPv4 addresses to say "hey, that's
>> not a problem for us" to everyone who can't get IPv4 addresses is
>> exactly the problem warned against in section 6 of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7282:
>> 
>> "
>> 6 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7282#section-6>. One hundred people for and five people against might not be rough
>> consensus
>> 
>>    Section 3 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7282#section-3>  discussed the idea of consensus being achieved when
>>    objections had been addressed (that is, properly considered, and
>>    accommodated if necessary).  Because of this, using rough consensus
>>    avoids a major pitfall of a straight vote: If there is a minority of
>>    folks who have a valid technical objection, that objection must be
>>    dealt with before consensus can be declared. "
>> The point at which we have parity between IPv4 and IPv6 connectivity is the point
>> at which we can start to talk about sunsetting IPv4 and declaring it historic, and
>> no longer concern ourselves with address exhaustion.  Until then, so long as
>> being able to obtain IPv4 addresses is a mandatory step in being functional on
>> the internet, it is unreasonable to say that the address exhaustion problem is
>> "solved."
>> 
>> Matt
>> 
> 
> I dont know how many ways and times this needs to be said, but you said it quite well.
> 
> Joe

Yep… He’s absolutely right… We need to find a way to get the networks that aren’t deploying IPv6 to
get off the dime and stop holding the rest of the world hostage in the IPv4 backwater.

Owen




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