Network visibility

Wed Oct 20 21:19:48 UTC 2021

On October 20, 2021 at 16:08 mel at beckman.org (Mel Beckman) wrote:
 > Mark,
 > 
 > Before 1983, the ARPANET wasn’t an internet, let alone The Internet. Each
 > ARPANET connection required a host-specific interface (the “IMP”) and simplex
 > Network Control Protocol (NCP). NCP used users' email addresses, and routing
 > had to be specified in advance within each NCP message.

Then again there were IMPs fitted to various systems like TOPS-10,
ITS, Vax/BSD Unix, IBM370, etc.

So was that really all that different from ethernet vs, oh, wi-fi or
fiber today, you needed an adapter?

 > 
 > Even so, the Internet as a platform open to anyone didn’t start until 1992. I
 > know you joined late, in 1999, so you probably missed out on this history. :)

Well, we certainly tried in 1989 :-) We had customers from all over
The World, um, the big round one you see when you look down.

 > 
 >  -mel
 >  
 > 
 >     On Oct 20, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Mark Tinka <mark at tinka.africa> wrote:
 > 
 > 
 > 
 >     On 10/20/21 17:26, Mel Beckman wrote:
 > 
 > 
 >         Mark,
 > 
 >         As long as we’re being pedantic, January 1, 1983 is considered the
 >         official birthday of the Internet, when TCP/IP first let different
 >         kinds of computers on different networks talk to each other. 
 > 
 >         It’s 2021, hence the Internet is less than, not more than, 40 years
 >         old.  Given your mathematical skills, I put no stock in your claim that
 >         we still can’t “buy an NMS that just works.” :)
 > 
 > 
 >     Hehehe :-)...
 > 
 >     I guess we can reliably say that the ARPANET wasn't keen on pretty
 >     pictures, then, hehe :-)...
 > 
 >     Mark.
 > 
 > 
 > 

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        -Barry Shein

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