Network visibility
Owen DeLong
owen at delong.com
Wed Oct 20 16:54:31 UTC 2021
> On Oct 20, 2021, at 08:26 , Mel Beckman <mel at beckman.org> wrote:
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> Mark,
>
> As long as we’re being pedantic, January 1, 1983 is considered the official birthday of the Internet, when TCP/IP first let different kinds of computers on different networks talk to each other.
January 1, 1983 is actually not that… TCP/IP was running in many locations prior to that date.
January 1, 1983 was the day that support for the NCP based internet prior to TCP/IP implementation ended.
Further, NCP had actually allowed different kinds of computers on different networks to talk to each other, as had UUCP.
> It’s 2021, hence the Internet is less than, not more than, 40 years old. Given your mathematical skills, I put no stock in your claim that we still can’t “buy an NMS that just works.” :)
No, not really. The Internet is older than the death of NCP, which is the day you are referring to as the birthday of the internet.
Owen
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> -mel
>
>> On Oct 20, 2021, at 8:04 AM, Mark Tinka <mark at tinka.africa <mailto:mark at tinka.africa>> wrote:
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>> On 10/20/21 11:55, Nat Fogarty wrote:
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>>> Hi there,
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>>> I'm interested in what you good folks do in terms of network visibility.
>>>
>>> My interests are around Service Provider space - visibility for IPoE, PPPoE, TCP(User Experience).
>>>
>>> I use a product called "VoIPmonitor" for all things VoIP - and it is one of my favourite tools. It is a web gui for sip/rtp/etc.
>>>
>>> Is there a similar tool in the Ethernet(L2)/IP(L3) space?
>>>
>>> Are operators using tcpdump/wireshark for this - or is there a voipmonitor-esque tool out there?
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>> It's 2021, and more than 40 years of the Internet, we still can't walk into a shop and buy an NMS that just works :-).
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>> Oddly, I was searching for a good system to manage subscriber management on our end (Broadband), and we eventually landed on Splynx.
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>> So not sure if you want to see things on the wire (Layer 1 - 4), or if you are interested in pretty pictures...
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>> At any rate, you may very well need more than one system to monitor your entire network.
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>> Mark.
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