New minimum speed for US broadband connections
Christian de Larrinaga
cdel at firsthand.net
Mon May 31 11:47:22 UTC 2021
Nobody needs more than 64k of RAM.
On Sun 30 May 2021 at 14:28, Mike Hammett <nanog at ics-il.net>
wrote:
> That doesn't really serve any value and 99.9999999999% of people
> would not pay
> any more than $50 for the ability, so your ability to execute
> such a system is
> limited.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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> From: "Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe" <lb at 6by7.net>
> To: "Laura Smith" <n5d9xq3ti233xiyif2vp at protonmail.ch>
> Cc: "NANOG Operators' Group" <nanog at nanog.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:43:50 PM
> Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
>
> I’m right there with you. I can download an entire Mac OS
> update in 6 minutes.
> It’s astonishing. I’d pay a grand a month for this. I’d pay
> five.
>
> -LB
>
> Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
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>
> On May 29, 2021, at 1:57 AM, Laura Smith via NANOG
> <nanog at nanog.org> wrote:
>
> I agree with Dan.
>
> In Switzerland you can get 10Gb symmetric to the home for
> 49.95 per month
> (or 39.95 if you have a mobile with the same ISP) .
>
> As with Dan, average utilisation is measured in Mb.
>
> But then the ability to go from that to download 10GB of the
> latest patches
> from Microsoft or Apple, or the ability to upload large
> files for off-site
> backups or for friends/customers .... I don't know what I'd
> do without it !
>
>
> And of course, the days of the buffering wheel of death when
> streaming 4K
> TV is long gone ... I can have multiple people in multiple
> rooms in my
> house streaming 4K and nobody notices.
>
> I would never, ever, go back to DSL. Even if they hiked the
> price 5x, I'd
> still pay it.
>
> Coming back to the original question on this thread, my
> answer would be the
> minimum for 2021 should be 1/1. Anything less than that is
> a bit silly and
> will soon be obsolete.
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Saturday, 29 May 2021 04:50, Dan Stralka
> <mrsyeltzin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> But it is reality, it's just not your reality, Mike.
> Brandon's ISP
> can provide that service.
>
> So should there be a more granular definition of speeds
> mandated based
> on population density, last mile tech, etc?
>
> I was in the camp that you didn't need higher bandwidth
> than you'd
> normally find - I was happy on my 50/10 plan. Then my
> ISP upgraded me
> to a 300/50 or thereabouts and it was a night and day
> difference in
> getting things done.
>
> Just like your example of average utilization being in
> the single
> megabits per second, my average utilization is near
> zero. But when I
> need to move files I can burst to speeds that aren't
> embarrassing in
> 2021.
>
> Higher bandwidth is both welcome and necessary. It
> doesn't have to be
> sustained throughout the contract to be required. The
> only question is
> how feasible it is, and I suspect it's quite feasible
> for larger
> players.
>
> Dan
>
> (end)
>
> On Fri, May 28, 2021, 22:33 Mike Hammett
> <nanog at ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>
> That's not based in any kind of reality.
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> From: "Brandon Price" <PriceB at SherwoodOregon.gov>
> To: "Sean Donelan" <sean at donelan.com>, "NANOG
> Operators' Group"
> <nanog at nanog.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 5:21:53 PM
> Subject: RE: New minimum speed for US broadband
> connections
>
> 100/100 minimum for sure.
>
> In our small neck of the woods, we are currently
> doing 250/250 for
> $45 and 1000/1000 for $60 no data caps.
>
> We have lost some grants on rural builds because
> "someone" in the
> census block claims they provide broadband.. Not
> hard to put an AP
> up on a tower and hit the current definition's
> upload speed.
>
> I get a chuckle when the providers tell the customer
> what they
> "need"...
>
> Brandon Price
> Senior Network Engineer
> City of Sherwood, Sherwood Broadband
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On
> Behalf Of Sean Donelan
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 5:33 PM
> To: NANOG Operators' Group <nanog at nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband
> connections
>
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> On Thu, 27 May 2021, Lady Benjamin Cannon of
> Glencoe, ASCE wrote:
>
> At least 100/100.
>
> We don’t like selling slower than 10g anymore,
> that’s what I’d
> start everyone at if I could.
>
>
> At $50/month or less?
>
> Maximize number of households of all demographic
> groups.
--
Christian de Larrinaga
https://firsthand.net
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