New minimum speed for US broadband connections

Mon May 31 10:17:36 UTC 2021

> On May 28, 2021, at 06:56 , Mike Hammett <nanog at ics-il.net> wrote:
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> "Bad connection" measures way more than throughput.
> 
> What about WFH or telehealth doesn't work on 25/3?

Pretty much everything if you have, say, 3+ people in your house trying to do it at once…

A decent Zoom call requires ~750Kbps of upstream bandwidth. When you get two
kids doing remote school and mom and dad each doing $DAYJOB via teleconferences,
that 3Mbps gets spread pretty thin, especially if you’ve got any other significant use
of your upstream connection (e.g. kids posting to Tik Tok, etc.)

Sure, for a single individual, 25/3 might be fine. For a household that has the industry
standard 2.53 people, it might even still work, but barely. Much above that average
and things degrade rapidly and not very gracefully.

Owen

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> From: "Abhi Devireddy" <abhi at devireddy.com>
> To: nanog at nanog.org, "Jason Canady" <jason at unlimitednet.us>
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 8:07:34 AM
> Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
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> Don't think it needs to change? From 25/3? Telehealth and WFH would like to talk with you.
> 
> There's very few things more draining than a conference call with someone who's got a bad connection. 
> Abhi
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> Abhi Devireddy
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> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+abhi=devireddy.com at nanog.org> on behalf of Jason Canady <jason at unlimitednet.us>
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 7:39:14 AM
> To: nanog at nanog.org <nanog at nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
>  
> I second Mike.
> 
> On 5/28/21 8:37 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> I don't think it needs to change.
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> From: "Sean Donelan" <sean at donelan.com> <mailto:sean at donelan.com>
> To: nanog at nanog.org <mailto:nanog at nanog.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:29:08 PM
> Subject: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
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> What should be the new minimum speed for "broadband" in the U.S.?
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> This is the list of past minimum broadband speed definitions by year
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> year  speed
> 
> 1999  200 kbps in both directions (this was chosen as faster than 
> dialup/ISDN speeds)
> 
> 2000  200 kbps in at least one direction (changed because too many service 
> providers had 128 kbps upload)
> 
> 2010   4 mbps down / 1 mbps up
> 
> 2015   25 Mbps down / 3 Mbps up (wired)
>          5 Mbps down / 1 Mbps up (wireless)
> 
> 2021   ??? / ??? (some Senators propose 100/100 mbps)
> 
> Not only in major cities, but also rural areas
> 
> Note, the official broadband definition only means service providers can't 
> advertise it as "broadband" or qualify for subsidies; not that they must 
> deliver better service.

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