New minimum speed for US broadband connections

Mike Hammett nanog at
Sat May 29 02:38:57 UTC 2021

Far from a major company, but I run two ISPs, one fixed wireless and one DSL\fiber. 

This is my "home" connection. (See attached). 

Max In: 4.55Mb; Average In: 421.44Kb; Current In: 333.26Kb; 
Max Out: 11.16Mb; Average Out: 2.04Mb; Current Out: 1.53Mb; 

That's a monthly graph of an interface facing the home, so In is upload and Out is download. That's four homes, six adults (five of them under 40), four children, two of which have been e-learning from home most of the year. One of the adults is me, definitely not a normal user. There is a Ring camera in one of the houses. There are a bunch of other cameras, but they're on another VLAN that goes to a local NAS. 

People vastly overestimate how much Internet they think they (and others) need. 

Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 


----- Original Message -----

From: "Sean Donelan" <sean at> 
To: "NANOG Operators' Group" <nanog at> 
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 9:00:13 PM 
Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections 

On Fri, 28 May 2021, Mike Lyon wrote: 
> since it appears we are arbitrarily pulling random numbers out of our asses 
> for "minimums?" 

I would love to see an experiment where the CEOs of the major 
communication companies were forced to use only their "lifeline" products 
for 30 days, including only their "lifeline" customer service lines. 

Based on the CEOs experience, then we might have some data whether those 
products are viable for modern households, work-from-home, home-school, 

One of the problems with the product definitions: the "minimum" is 
treated as the "maximum" (up to speed). The actual bandwidth delivered is 
often much less than the advertised "up to" numbers. 

E.g. advertised 25 mbps /3 mbps => actual 7 mbps/768 kbps with data caps 

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