Perhaps it's time to think about enhancements to the NANOG list...?

Wed Mar 24 08:01:31 UTC 2021

On 3/23/21 20:14, Sabri Berisha wrote:

> Most of the more effective troubleshooting techniques will require 
> some sort
> of CLI or CLI-like output. In times of crisis, you'll want to be able to
> type "show ip bgp summary", instead of waiting for your browser to send a
> javascript request to a server, the server to run a python script invoking
> netmiko to log onto a node, grab the output, reformat it, have it sent back
> to your browser and rendered.
>
> Not to mention that, like pilots, network engineers need hands-on time to
> stay effective. Planes have crashed because pilots lost it and relied on
> automation (Asiana 214, anyone?).
>
> That said, as a soon-to-be-dinosaur, I try to keep up with the latest and
> greatest. I don't want to run the risk of becoming an ATM engineer.

Let's not forget Cisco had "ip http server" from the get.

Even then, "no ip http server" was a favorite must-have.

Mark.