Perhaps it's time to think about enhancements to the NANOG list...?

Wed Mar 24 03:21:13 UTC 2021

Nail -> Head <- Hammer

Well put ! I don’t know if it could have been put better than that.

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J. Hellenthal

The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.

> On Mar 23, 2021, at 10:57, Emil Pfeffer <emu at emuadmin.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 09:20:14AM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> "But why it should or shouldn't be clicked..."
>> Sorta like most man pages.
> 
> They both need prior knowledge to use. 
> We tend to simplify things in order to save time but then the new generation comes
> in and thinks the simple things it's all there is and have no willingness to go
> back in time and accumulate "useless" knowledge. It is useless because the problems
> it fixes were already fixed but it is paramount in understanding whats behind the 
> simple things. Knowledge can only be simplified so much and there's no shortcut to
> accumulating it. (hence why most people will prefer to just use the tools)
> 
> The generational gap is not an issue it is how things need to be. The network
> engineering the younger generation deals with is not the same networking the old
> generation deals with but built upon this old networks. This two generations do
> not need the same knowledge and it is in each others best interest that they stay
> separated. Although we would gladly help someone that is obviously putting in the
> effort and is looking to learn we have not volunteered to be teachers and some people
> need to understand that we prefer to keep it simple because we have no time to waste.
> 
> It is easy to believe that the method you are using is the one but eventually
> the good ones will have to pass the test of time which mailling lists and a plethora
> of the old tools successfully did. 
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