Perhaps it's time to think about enhancements to the NANOG list...?

Tue Mar 23 18:27:29 UTC 2021

     Hey, I did some OS/2 network driver for SNA over X.25 card using a 
PRI =D.

     But its all a question of workflow...  Fake busy work created by 
devices/apps battling for your attention ain't my cup of tea.

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On 3/23/21 2:14 PM, Sabri Berisha wrote:
> ----- On Mar 23, 2021, at 1:09 AM, Mark Tinka mark at tinka.africa wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> I'm of the opposite view... front-end shiny GUI's are the risk. I'd
>> babysit them before I let them leave the house. For a long time.
> Children of the magenta line...
>
> Most of the more effective troubleshooting techniques will require some sort
> of CLI or CLI-like output. In times of crisis, you'll want to be able to
> type "show ip bgp summary", instead of waiting for your browser to send a
> javascript request to a server, the server to run a python script invoking
> netmiko to log onto a node, grab the output, reformat it, have it sent back
> to your browser and rendered.
>
> Not to mention that, like pilots, network engineers need hands-on time to
> stay effective. Planes have crashed because pilots lost it and relied on
> automation (Asiana 214, anyone?).
>
> That said, as a soon-to-be-dinosaur, I try to keep up with the latest and
> greatest. I don't want to run the risk of becoming an ATM engineer.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sabri

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