ASE - 100 Gig Wave

Thu Mar 18 17:33:12 UTC 2021

CC back to the mailing list for visibility, since I ate the CC list.

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 1:31 PM Tom Beecher <beecher at beecher.cc> wrote:

> Rod-
>
> Please refer to the usage guidelines found here.
> https://nanog.org/resources/usage-guidelines/
>
> 14. Posts that encourage or facilitate an agreement about the following
>> subjects are inappropriate: prices, discounts, or terms or conditions of
>> sale; salaries; benefits, profits, profit margins, or cost data; market
>> shares, sales territories, or markets; allocation of customers or
>> territories; or selection, rejection, or termination of customers or
>> suppliers.
>
>
>  I would tend to agree that while most of your posts to the list are
> within the guidelines, there have been occasions where a reasonable person
> could think you might be skirting the line a bit. In this case :
>
> - Your company works as a broker to procure capacity for others.
> - You sent an email to the list that wording wise would be exactly the
> same as many of us might send to someone they were looking for capacity
> from.
>
> I think most would agree this is pretty clearly against both the usage
> guidelines and the spirit of what this mailing list is about.
>
> I would also like to remind you that this list is administered by the
> NANOG organization. You have no authority to tell others to 'cease and
> desist', and insult someone as 'underemployed' is also not well tolerated
> here.
>
> I have looped in the list admins here. It would probably be a good idea to
> refrain from future messages that are clearly commercial in nature, or that
> contain unnecessary insults.
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 11:28 AM Rod Beck <rod.beck at unitedcablecompany.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Actually, that language was intended to prohibit soliciting business and
>> not asking for help. I have some hard words to describe like Shane Ronan,
>> but I will forbear.
>>
>> I suggest you cease and desist before this gets ugly. Obviously you are
>> underemployed.
>>
>> Get some work to do.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> -R.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* sronan at ronan-online.com <sronan at ronan-online.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:24 PM
>> *To:* Rod Beck <rod.beck at unitedcablecompany.com>; NANOG Operators' Group
>> <nanog at nanog.org>
>> *Cc:* Shane Ronan <shane at ronan-online.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave
>>
>> Please review the Mailing List policies which specifically prohibit
>> commercial discussions on the list. I would ask the list moderators to
>> chime in here please
>>
>> Shane
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Rod Beck <rod.beck at unitedcablecompany.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> People post requests all the time. You are free to block me. And I know
>> the majority of uses disagree with you.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Shane Ronan <shane at ronan-online.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:11 PM
>> *To:* Rod Beck <rod.beck at unitedcablecompany.com>
>> *Cc:* nanog at nanog.org <nanog at nanog.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave
>>
>> NANOG is not a service for receiving details on cable paths for
>> commercial purposes. Please find somewhere else to collect this information.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:54 AM Rod Beck <
>> rod.beck at unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
>>
>> This cable is tapped out and I need a 100 gig wave from Hong Kong to
>> Singapore. 3 year term.
>>
>> Roderick Beck
>> Global Network Capacity Procurement
>>
>> United Cable Company
>> www.unitedcablecompany.com
>> https://unitedcablecompany.com/video/
>> New York City & Budapest
>>
>> rod.beck at unitedcablecompany.com
>>
>> Budapest: 36-70-605-5144
>>
>> NJ: 908-452-8183
>>
>>
>>
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