DDoS attack with blackmail

Thu Jun 10 22:57:57 UTC 2021

I’m also curious if they did as promised.

I read this today:
https://beta.darkreading.com/threat-intelligence/-fancy-lazarus-criminal-group-launches-ddos-extortion-campaign

Best.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 8:35 AM Edvinas Kairys <edvinas.email at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hey,
>
> Did you get the attack promised ? after 1 week after notice ?
>
> Today we've been warned and got some udp flood for 3 hours.
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> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 2:14 PM Jean St-Laurent via NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I don’t believe that these companies are complicit at high level.
>>
>> My guess is that there are some business salesmen working there that
>> needs to fulfill their monthly quota of new clients.
>>
>>
>>
>> What is usually common, is that when face by a DDoS for the first time
>> without the  proper tooling, it sounds like it’s an impossible task to
>> solve. The knowledge on internet is pretty limited on the topic.
>>
>> It takes months and sometimes years to configure all the DDoS gates.
>> Rolland’s ppt is a nice place to start as it has valuable knowledge. It’s
>> just tough to figure out what is best for you.
>>
>>
>>
>> The truth is, it will be more beneficial to your organisation in the
>> medium/long term if you start learning and improving your DDoS defenses now
>> than to rely 100% on DDoS mitigators.
>>
>> These companies are fantastic when you protect slow assets like Credit
>> card transactions. The customer don’t really care if his transaction to
>> validate the CC takes 4 seconds instead of 3.
>>
>>
>>
>> In the end, DDoS mitigations is not more complex than what you are used
>> to do daily. Protect your routers, protect the control-plane, protect the
>> SSH lines, etc. It’s just a different kind of protections.
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me know if you need some advices or hints, because I’ve spent some
>> freaking long hours fighting them and together we have a better chance to
>> win and not pay ransom from blackmails.
>>
>> I don’t have all the answers on DDoS, but maybe I have the one that you
>> are looking for.
>>
>>
>>
>> The moment you become very resilient to DDoS attacks, your customers will
>> thank you and also support staff that will see the DDoS bounce like
>> mosquitoes on the windshield of your car at 90 Mph.
>>
>>
>>
>> Start learning now and start improving your DDoS. This won’t go away
>> anytime soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jean
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>> *From:* jim deleskie <deleskie at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* May 24, 2021 12:38 PM
>> *To:* Jean St-Laurent <jean at ddostest.me>
>> *Cc:* NANOG Operators' Group <nanog at nanog.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: DDoS attack with blackmail
>>
>>
>>
>> While I have no design to engage in over email argument over how much
>> latency people can actually tolerate, I will simply state that most people
>> have a very poor understanding of it and how much additional latency is
>> really introduced by DDoS mitigation.
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>>
>>
>> As for implying that DDoS mitigation companies are complicit or involved
>> in attacks, while not the first time i heard that crap it's pretty
>> offensive to those that work long hours for years dealing with the
>> garbage.  If you honestly believe anyone your dealing with is involved with
>> launching attacks you clearly have not done your research into potential
>> partners.
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>> On Sat., May 22, 2021, 11:20 a.m. Jean St-Laurent via NANOG, <
>> nanog at nanog.org> wrote:
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>> Some industries can’t afford that extra delay by DDoS mitigation vendors.
>>
>>
>>
>> The video game industry is one of them and there might be others that
>> can’t tolerate these extra ms. Telemedicine, video-conference, fintech, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> As a side note, my former employer in video game was bidding for these
>> vendors offering DDoS protection. While bidding, we were hit with abnormal
>> patterns. As soon as we chose one vendors those very tricky DDoS patterns
>> stopped.
>>
>> I am not saying they are working on both side, but still the coincidence
>> was interesting. In the end, we never used them because they were not able
>> to perfectly block the threat without impacting all the others projects.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think these mitigators are nice to have as a very last resort. I
>> believe what is more important for Network Operators is: to be aware of
>> this, to be able to detect it, mitigate it and/or minimize the impact. It’s
>> like magic, where did that rabbit go?
>>
>>
>>
>> The art of war taught me everything there is to know about DDoS attacks
>> even if it was written some 2500 years ago.
>>
>>
>>
>> I suspect that the attack that impacted Baldur’s assets was a very easy
>> DDoS to detect and block, but can’t confirm.
>>
>>
>>
>> @Baldur: do you care to share some metrics?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+jean=ddostest.me at nanog.org> *On Behalf Of *Jean
>> St-Laurent via NANOG
>> *Sent:* May 21, 2021 10:52 AM
>> *To:* 'Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE' <lb at 6by7.net>; 'Baldur
>> Norddahl' <baldur.norddahl at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* 'NANOG Operators' Group' <nanog at nanog.org>
>> *Subject:* RE: DDoS attack with blackmail
>>
>>
>>
>> I also recommend book Art of War from Sun Tzu.
>>
>>
>>
>> All the answers to your questions are in that book.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
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>> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+jean=ddostest.me at nanog.org> *On Behalf Of *Lady
>> Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
>> *Sent:* May 20, 2021 7:18 PM
>> *To:* Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* NANOG Operators' Group <nanog at nanog.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: DDoS attack with blackmail
>>
>>
>>
>> 20 years ago I wrote an automatic teardrop attack.  If your IP spammed us
>> 5 times, then a script would run, knocking the remote host off the internet
>> entirely.
>>
>>
>>
>> Later I modified it to launch 1000 teardrop attacks/second…
>>
>>
>>
>> Today,  contact the FBI.
>>
>>
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>> And get a mitigation service above your borders if you can.
>>
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>> —L.B.
>>
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>>
>> Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
>>
>> 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
>>
>> CEO
>>
>> lb at 6by7.net
>>
>> "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in
>> the world.”
>>
>> FCC License KJ6FJJ
>>
>>
>>
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>> On May 20, 2021, at 12:26 PM, Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>>
>> We got attacked by a group that calls themselves "Fancy Lazarus". They
>> want payment in BC to not attack us again. The attack was a volume attack
>> to our DNS and URL fetch from our webserver.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am interested in any experience in fighting back against these guys.
>>
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>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Baldur
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>> --
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