New minimum speed for US broadband connections

Josh Luthman josh at imaginenetworksllc.com
Wed Jun 2 14:35:14 UTC 2021


Oh I see where you're coming from.

"No such thing as a free lunch" is a phrase, basically stating nothing is
ever actually free.  In other words, making it affordable for everyone
comes at a cost to everyone.

See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_ain%27t_no_such_thing_as_a_free_lunch

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On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 10:11 AM Mark Tinka <mark at tinka.africa> wrote:

>
>
> On 6/2/21 15:53, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> "If it was affordable" is a tricky statement.  There's no such thing as a
> free lunch.  If taxes/government/municipalities/etc are required to make it
> "affordable" that means all of the people are paying for it with extra
> steps.
>
>
> Nobody says we should offer free fibre.
>
> There are markets that find mobile data unaffordable.
>
>
>
> To put it very simply, imagine the US does fiber the way it does power.
> If every single person throws in $10/mo every month we could easily hook up
> that guy that's 5 miles from the closest source of power/water in the
> Nevada desert.  Is that fair to the guy in a 150+ person apartment
> building?  One gets solitude and fiber internet, the other has to deal with
> neighbors and gets fiber internet.
>
> Exclude the problems with government regulated power (or anything) for
> this topic, please.
>
>
> You now see why I don't live in the U.S. :-).
>
> Seriously, in case it wasn't obvious, I don't live in the U.S., nor am I
> American. Translation, it probably is not harmful to compare this issue
> with non-U.S. markets, which was your argument.
>
>
>
> In what instance?  Power has cost assistance and water in most
> environments is pretty accessible.  I'm not sure what you mean here.
>
>
> Again, non-U.S. context.
>
> There are many markets where folk have a mobile phones and some data, but
> no access to power or clean water. In others, bringing water or power to
> areas means bribing officials for years and still getting nothing. But they
> may be able to pick up some 3G :-).
>
> Mark.
>
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