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Fri Jan 8 20:10:41 UTC 2021

Thanks Dave,
I missed that... *he says as he deletes Keybase*

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 1:36 PM Dave Phelps <tippenring at gmail.com> wrote:

> Keybase was purchased by Zoom (
> https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/zoom-buys-keybase-in-first-deal-as-part-of-plan-to-fix-security.html).
> From what I've gathered, Zoom is too tight with, owned by, or run by China,
> so I believe there was a similar mass exodus from Keybase for lack of trust.
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 1:17 PM Richard Porter <richard at pedantictheory.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone considered or used Keybase?
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 1:14 PM Mark Tinka <mark.tinka at seacom.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/8/21 19:26, Drew Weaver wrote:
>>>
>>> > This might be anecdotal but there is a ton of debate about whether or
>>> not Telegram is encrypted.
>>> >
>>> > This is not anecdotal though, on Wednesday night I saw an interview
>>> with a security expert on CNBC and he indicated that they knew that the
>>> riots in DC were going to happen because they had been "monitoring the
>>> extremists Telegram groups". What they didn't say was whether or not they
>>> were simply members of those groups, or monitoring from a
>>> "networking/technology" sense. I'm not sure if Signal does groups the same
>>> way that Telegram does but that one is widely believed to be much better
>>> than Telegram as far as privacy and security.
>>> >
>>> > Telegram is a tremendously useful (and free service) for connecting to
>>> Elastalert for all manner of notifications, but we have since moved to
>>> Teams for that just because we can't really be sure what is going on under
>>> the hood with Telegram.
>>> >
>>> > Just some things that I have observed, not trying to start a holy war.
>>>
>>> My rudimentary understanding of Telegram is that group messages are
>>> client-server, which is why new members can read old posts when they
>>> join a group.
>>>
>>> Signal, on the other hand, is p2p for members within the group. No
>>> messages are ever sent to their cloud.
>>>
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>
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