Viable Third Option?
mehmet at akcin.net
Wed Feb 17 18:54:53 UTC 2021
GTT seems ok. TATA as well. Telia has some issues as far as I see.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 10:49 Mike Hammett <nanog at ics-il.net> wrote:
> This is from the perspective of an eyeball network. I understand that
> content networks would have different objectives and reasons. For instance,
> I have little to no reason as an eyeball network to exchange traffic with
> any other eyeball network (aside from P2P games). For a content network,
> getting into the eyeball networks is their objective.
> My crystal ball tells me this thread will spiral out of control because
> people won't be able to keep it on topic, but it is a question that I hear
> VERY often. I also expect a lot of purely bad or outdated information to
> get thrown out.
> Please try to keep it on topic and not being pedantic over relatively
> unimportant details.
> There are two major low-cost providers, Cogent and HE.
> - Refuses to peer IPv6 with HE
> - Refuses to peer IPv6 with Google
> - Aggressive sales tactics
> - Doesn't have Cogent IPv6 because of Cogent's refusal
> - Lack of communities for anything other than blackholes
> I know there are a variety of other providers such as Fusion Network that
> operate at similar price points, but are available in way fewer locations.
> What else is out there? Anyone else that isn't 5x, 10x the cost?
> Cogent and HE get looked down upon (and sometimes deservedly so), but when
> I talk to someone trying to sell me a port in 350 Cermak for 8x the cost of
> Cogent and HE, you better have a very good argument for why you're worth
> it... and they never do. "We're not Cogent." "and?" Many times I'm quoted
> transit that costs more than Cogent + IX + HE and they don't really have a
> good argument for it.
> As an eyeball, I join an IX and there goes 50% - 85% of my traffic and
> almost all of my traffic that anyone is going to notice or complain about
> if there are issues (video streaming).
> I do understand that enterprise eyeballs may have different requirements.
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
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