Carrier Options in Hong Kong

Wed Dec 22 14:20:41 UTC 2021

Eric Dugas,

I'm not seeing that, seems llike they do peer locally. These tests are Lumen but cogent was similar. I believe they peer locally with the Cogents\Lumens of the world. Looking at BGP.he.net AS9444 I found some HKT IPs and pinged from the Lumen looking glass

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Hong Kong Telecommunications (HKT) Limited

Target: 120.88.245.3 with 64 data bytes Success rate sent/received = (1/1) packets
Round-Trip min/avg/max = 1ms/1ms/1ms

AS38819 - HKT GPRS network
HONGKONG CHINA Ping results for: 14.0.183.254 (14-0-183-254.static.pccw-hkt.com)

Target: 14.0.183.254 with 64 data bytes Success rate sent/received = (1/1) packets
Round-Trip min/avg/max = 2ms/2ms/2ms
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The only remotely 'far' one was

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Hong Kong Telecommunications (HKT) Limited Mass Internet

traceroute to 1.65.190.108 (1.65.190.108), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 gi0-0-0-18.221.rcr11.b061570-1.hkg02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.250.193) 0.861 ms 0.879 ms
2 be3692.ccr21.hkg02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.80.33) 1.079 ms 1.159 ms
3 be2414.rcr51.hkg01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.88.50) 1.772 ms 1.667 ms
4 pccw.hkg01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.140.66) 8.791 ms 3.131 ms
5 HundredGE0-3-0-0.br02.hkg08.pccwbtn.net (63.223.29.194) 3.234 ms 3.232 ms
6 csl.te0-1-0-14.br02.hkg08.pccwbtn.net (63.217.66.30) 3.290 ms 3.367 ms
7 * *
8 * *
9 * *
10 1-65-190-108.static.netvigator.com (1.65.190.108) 47.453 ms 47.441 ms
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Cogent has similar results.

If anyone has access to IPs in HK and doesn't mind helping please ping from cogent or lumen LG.

Just want to ensure I'm not missing anything here in my analysis.

Thanks
- Nanoguser99

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‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, December 18th, 2021 at 3:08 AM, David Guo <david at xtom.com> wrote:

> Eric, none of the carriers you mention in HK has local connection, other HK ISPs will route to US if they don’t peer with you.
>
> Currently we are using NTT and Telstra, which has good connectivity in Asia except mainland China.
>
> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+david=xtom.com at nanog.org>  On Behalf Of Eric Dugas via NANOG
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2021 3:12 AM
> To: nanoguser99 <nanoguser99 at protonmail.com>
> Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Carrier Options in Hong Kong
>
> I am in no way an expert in APAC but all of the IP carriers I have in NA are present in HK: Cogent, Tata, Telia, Zayo.
>
> My guess is a good portion of the interconnections with other IP carriers, CDNs and such will be either in Singapore or Tokyo.
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 1:56 PM nanoguser99 via NANOG <nanog at nanog.org> wrote:
>
>> Nanog,
>>
>> Currently my organization uses PCCW which we pay through the nose for and I'm looking to cut them. This was put in place before me. I was informed that PCCW is "the carrier" in Hong Kong but based on my analysis I'm not sure that's the case. My analysis of carriers such as Lumen and Cogent put them on par with PCCW. Pings to random IPs in HK are reasonable fast on all of them, same with pings to cloud providers. Access to mainland is not a hard requirement but just to check they all had 300+ ms latency to known IPs in Shanghai and Tanjin.
>>
>> I know some regions such as Korea or Dubai are monopolized where the wrong carrier takes you on a far away path to get a few blocks down the street.
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>> I don't need anything special, just general DIA and good access to eyeballs and internet. I just wanted to see people's opinions here as APAC connectivity can be tricky.
>>
>> - Nanoguser99
>>
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