The great Netflix vpn debacle!

Tue Aug 31 23:58:06 UTC 2021

If Netflix, et al. are not accepting connections from CGNs they are ALREADY obsolete.

Yes, I know it sucks to have to tell your customers that they just bought obsolete
equipment.  Plug in Chromecast, Apple TV, and they can get back that functionality
with a product that does actually get upgraded.

Mark

> On 1 Sep 2021, at 09:13, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> 
> You just broke 99% of the smart television sets in people’s homes, unfortunately.
> 
> That will resolve itself over time, of course, as sets are replaced, but anyone with
> a set that is more than ~3 years old is mostly unlikely to have IPv6 support in it and
> the vendors are ALL universally terrible about updating firmware.
> 
> As much as I like the idea (and that if a sufficient number of providers were willing
> to do so, it might just serve as a forcing function to get firmware updates done),
> I wouldn’t hold my breath and I suspect where there are competitive alternatives,
> such a notice would be a boon to the competition.
> 
> Owen
> 
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2021, at 15:15 , Mark Andrews <marka at isc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Force the traffic to these companies to use IPv6.  Advise your customers that
>> you are doing this, why you are doing this and what steps they need to take
>> to enable IPv6 on their equipment. Your customers can’t be in a worse position.
>> 
>> "Dear customer,
>> 	       if you want to reach … you will need to enable IPv6 support in
>> your home network.  The world ran out of enough IPv4 for everyone several years
>> back and we have been sharing IPv4 between customers to allow you to reach IPv4
>> only sites.  The afore mentioned companies are now blocking IPv4 connections from
>> ISPs that have to share IPv4 addresses.  To give you a better service we are
>> blocking IPv4 connections to these companies so you will get a more reliable service
>> over IPv6.
>> 
>> For instructions on how to enable IPv6 connectivity on you home router see this
>> page ….
>> 
>> If your home router does not support IPv6 you will need to upgrade it to one that does."
>> 
>>> On 1 Sep 2021, at 06:36, Bryan Holloway <bryan at shout.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Owen ... good point.
>>> 
>>> Now hearing reports for these same prefixes with Disney+ too.
>>> 
>>> So the common denominators are:
>>> 
>>> HBO
>>> Hulu
>>> Netflix
>>> Amazon Prime
>>> Disney+
>>> 
>>> ... there has _got_ to be some new-fangled DB somewhere. This all started in the last month or so.
>>> 
>>> All of our RR objects, whois, DNS is solid ... dehr?
>>> 
>>> Fun times.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/31/21 9:16 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>> 
>>> [snip]
>>> 
>>>> Geolocate and VPN or Not are often kind of tied to the same kinds of reporting services and it may well be that whatever provider HBO is using for one is also being used for the other.
>>>> Owen
>> 
>> -- 
>> Mark Andrews, ISC
>> 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
>> PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742              INTERNET: marka at isc.org
>> 
> 

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Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742              INTERNET: marka at isc.org