DoD IP Space

Ca By cb.list6 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 26 13:59:47 UTC 2021


On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 6:36 AM Tom Beecher <beecher at beecher.cc> wrote:

> As long as that IP space was isolated to the .mil network, it was private
>> space, as far as the Internet was concerned.
>>
>
> The DoD allocation of 11/8 predates the concept of 'private network space'.
>
> 11/8 was first assigned to the DoD in RFC 943 in April of 1985. The
> concept of IPv4 space for private networks was first defined in RFC 1597,
> March 1994. (Which eventually would become RFC1918. )
>
> The fact that certain parties decided on their own that space not present
> in the global routing table was 'fair game' or 'private' doesn't make them
> correct, it simply makes them ill informed.
>

My reading of this thread is that the space is now permanently bogon’d for
some honeypot. so yeah, it is fair game. Enjoy the public goods all !


> On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 7:18 PM Mel Beckman <mel at beckman.org> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> It’s the INTERNET that is civilian, not the IP space. As long as that IP
>> space was isolated to the .mil network, it was private space, as far as the
>> Internet was concerned. Now DoD has moved it into the civilian Internet,
>> and I treat them as potentially malicious as I do any other organization
>> that lies, cheats, and steals the public trust.
>>
>>  -mel
>>
>> > On Apr 24, 2021, at 3:45 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 8:26 AM Mel Beckman <mel at beckman.org> wrote:
>> >> This doesn’t sound good, no matter how you slice it. The lack of
>> >> transparency with a civilian resource is troubling at a minimum.
>> >
>> > You do understand that the addresses in question are not and have
>> > never been "civilian." They came into DoD's possession when this was
>> > all still a military project funded by what's now DARPA.
>> >
>> > Personally, I think we may have an all time record for the largest
>> > honeypot ever constructed. I'd love to be a fly on that wall.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Bill Herrin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > William Herrin
>> > bill at herrin.us
>> > https://bill.herrin.us/
>>
>>
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