Google IP Geolocation

Tue Apr 6 01:31:14 UTC 2021

We're also having similar issues - Google is detecting our Singapore IP range as coming from HK, and our HK Ip range as coming from Vietnam

Just applied for access to Google's ISP portal - let's see what happens.

If anyone else have any more ideas how to get Google to fix this, please do share - my users are getting fed up!

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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+munfai=bubblenut.sg at nanog.org> on behalf of Benjamin Hatton <bhatton at htva.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 9:47 PM
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Subject: Re: Google IP Geolocation

Just as another viewpoint on this.

We do not peer or have GGC Cache servers, but I put in a request for a portal account after seeing this thread, and it was approved in less than 24h, so YMMV.

The only thing I can think of that is different, is that we do move enough traffic for Google to have us flagged as 'Your traffic levels qualify for Google Peering' (~2.5Gbps) and are an eyeball network.

Ben Hatton

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On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 9:15 AM Troy Kelly via NANOG <nanog at nanog.org<mailto:nanog at nanog.org>> wrote:
We've also been denied access to the ISP portal.

When we replied as to why, we were told to not open another ticket. They aren't interested in conversation.

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On 30 Mar 2021, 6:53 am, Mike Hammett < nanog at ics-il.net<mailto:nanog at ics-il.net>> wrote:

I've had others at Google specifically say that portal should be used for that purpose, so maybe they need to make sure right and left hands know what the other is doing.

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com

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From: "Josh Luthman" <josh at imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com>>
To: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists at gmail.com<mailto:morrowc.lists at gmail.com>>
Cc: nanog at nanog.org<mailto:nanog at nanog.org>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:52:48 PM
Subject: Re: Google IP Geolocation

https://isp.google.com

I signed up for an account there and they said:

"Currently, the Google ISP portal is designed for our partners of GGC, PNI or IX programs.

The access to portal is granted on request only to our partners."

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 2:08 PM Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists at gmail.com<mailto:morrowc.lists at gmail.com>> wrote:

On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 1:59 PM Josh Luthman <josh at imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Google ISP specifically told me they didn't want to do deal with geolocation on the ISP portal.

unsure who 'google isp' is here, but ... I think if you point at a properly formed geo-location data file it'll get eaten and produce proper results for you.
you do have to add that in your isp portal:
   tri-pipe-thingy -> configuration -> IP geolocation
and /register feed/ button on that page.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:28 PM Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists at gmail.com<mailto:morrowc.lists at gmail.com>> wrote:
As a note, on the ISP portal there's a place to put a link to your RFC8805 format geolocation feed...
these are scraped out 'regularly' and help keep things oriented better for folks.

the ietf noc folk use this method to tell google (and other folk who scrape out our data) where meetings are before the meetings get there:
  https://noc.ietf.org/geo/google.csv

-chris
volunteer noc persona

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 6:43 PM Michael K. Spears <michael at spears.io<mailto:michael at spears.io>> wrote:

Awesome, I think I’ve figured out the Google ISP portal signup, but it definitely seems semi-complicated in a way, notably finding the link…

Thank you,

Michael K. Spears

727.656.3347

From: Mike Hammett <nanog at ics-il.net<mailto:nanog at ics-il.net>>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 6:30 PM
To: Michael K. Spears <michael at spears.io<mailto:michael at spears.io>>
Cc: nanog at nanog.org<mailto:nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Google IP Geolocation

We're working on a video to show people how to sign up for the ISP portal and get to that part of the portal once signed up. We'll drop a link to it near the Google section of our geolocation page.

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com

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From: "Michael K. Spears" <michael at spears.io<mailto:michael at spears.io>>
To: nanog at nanog.org<mailto:nanog at nanog.org>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 5:10:23 PM
Subject: Google IP Geolocation

Anyone have a good contact at Google who can help with IP geolocation? I have a /24 where anything related to Google is in the wrong language.

Thank you,

Michael K. Spears

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