how would draft-ymbk-opsawg-finding-geofeeds work in noam
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Sat Sep 12 22:44:41 UTC 2020
On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 1:13 PM Randy Bush <randy at psg.com> wrote:
> hi camron
> sad to say, the days of faxing around number assigments have passed.
> the kiddie googlers who wrote the geofeeds rfc probably have not even
> seen a fax machine. they just did not like having a hundred gnomes in
> the basement dealing with everybody's formats. given silicon valley
> housing costs, gnome armies do not scale well. and, imiho, the format
> they developed is sufficiently boring that it might work.
> ten thousand providers emailing each other spreadsheets is not very
> pretty or reliable at global scale. the plague is teaching normal folk
> the concept of exponential.
> so where A *finds* B's geofeed data is an ugly issue. i agree that rpsl
> sucks. like democracy, it may suck less than the alternatives. but if
> you have a better suggestion, puhleeze!
> > 2. Why can’t arin just provide me a web portal to add city / state
> > info in my already existing rpki roa form?
> and then where do those data go? you wanna go through the ietf process
> of putting it in the rpki, which has no 'remarks' as an intermediate
> and 10,000 consumers of the data would have to sign arin legal papers.
> and arin is just one corner of a large world and becoming less and less
> as to using zip codes; aside from the international issues, in many
> locales postal codes are sufficiently specific to reveal personal
> identity. or at least this is why some geofeed designers told me they
> avoided postal codes. but this document is not about those choices
> anyway; geofeed file format was assumed.
> i hope you noted that the rpki-based signing is entirely optional. i
> certainly do not sign my geofeed files, and am not aware of any other
> deployment of this tech which does.
Just business in this email.
I gave your I-D a try in the real world, and it does not work with a major
player. I thought you might know this, and could have saved me a few hours
of tinkering... But to help others along, inetnum does not work at RADB.
Web form, email, nada.
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