plea for comcast/sprint handoff debug help

Randy Bush randy at psg.com
Thu Oct 29 20:17:16 UTC 2020


>>> tl;dr:
>>> 
>>> comcast: does your 50.242.151.5 westin router receive the announcement
>>> of 147.28.0.0/20 from sprint's westin router 144.232.9.61?
>> 
>> tl;dr: diagnosed by comcast.  see our short paper to be presented at imc
>>       tomorrow https://archive.psg.com/200927.imc-rp.pdf
>> 
>> lesson: route origin relying party software may cause as much damage as
>> 	it ameliorates
>> 
>> randy
> 
> To clarify this for the readers here: there is an ongoing research
> experiment where connectivity to the RRDP and rsync endpoints of
> several RPKI publication servers is being purposely enabled and
> disabled for prolonged periods of time. This is perfectly fine of
> course.
> 
> While the resulting paper presented at IMC is certainly interesting,
> having relying party software fall back to rsync when RRDP is
> unavailable is not a requirement specified in any RFC, as the paper
> seems to suggest. In fact, we argue that it's actually a bad idea to
> do so:
> 
> https://blog.nlnetlabs.nl/why-routinator-doesnt-fall-back-to-rsync/
> 
> We're interested to hear views on this from both an operational and
> security perspective.

in fact, <senior op at an isp> has found your bug.  if you find an http
server, but it is not serving the new and not-required rrdp protocol, it
does not then use the mandatory to implement rsync.

randy


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