Apple Catalina Appears to Introduce Massive Jitter
Mark Tinka
mark.tinka at seacom.com
Thu Oct 29 12:28:49 UTC 2020
Ah yes, an example of what I am seeing:
Marks-MacBook-Pro.local (172.16.0.239) 2020-10-29T14:28:27+0200
Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit
Packets Pings
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. 172.16.0.254 0.8% 126 3.9 34.7 2.5 232.1 54.9
Mark.
On 10/29/20 14:07, Mark Tinka wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I've been on High Sierra for several years now due to a limitation
> with an app that couldn't deal with Apple's latest rounds of system
> permissions since Mojave. Eventually, I gave up on waiting for them to
> fix it and upgraded my older Butterfly keyboard laptop to Catalina 4
> weeks ago.
>
> At the same time, I picked up the new Magic keyboard laptop 2 weeks
> ago which came with Catalina.
>
> Over the past week, I've been troubleshooting a massive jitter issue
> on Catalina, just between itself and my home router. For control, I
> have a Windows PC (tower-top) using a wireless adapter to connect to
> my home network. That has no jitter at all.
>
> I have noticed as much as 300ms+ jitter on Catalina.
>
> I then asked a few friends around the world to run tests for me on
> their own Catalina installations to their local router over wi-fi, and
> the results are the same. Jitter so high that what should be a 1ms -
> 5ms latency can (for a short period) jump to 200ms+, 300ms+, 400ms+.
>
> On the off-chance that it is an issue with the new wireless chips on
> the later MacBook models, one of my friends tested the same on a 2013
> MacBook Pro running a beta version of Big Sur. Same story!
>
> Another friend in South East Asia, testing on a 2018 13-inch MacBook
> Pro running Catalina, also had the same issue.
>
> A Google search suggests that this is some known issue since Mojave,
> to do with Location Services, and some other apps, in a
> non-deterministic way:
>
> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/263638/macbook-pro-experiencing-ping-spikes-to-local-router
>
> For me, even after disabling all or some Location Services features,
> the problem remains.
>
> Is anyone else seeing this on their Catalina Mac's while on wi-fi? If
> so, does anyone know what's going on here?
>
> Ideally, this wouldn't matter if it was just a cosmetic issue - but I
> do actually see physical impact to performance of network access
> to/from the laptop, which has all the hallmarks of high jitter and/or
> packet loss.
>
> An app like Zoom, which can display network performance data for a
> session in real-time, does indicate nominal packet loss for audio and
> video on this device, while other devices on the same WLAN are happy.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Mark.
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