Fwd: Phoenix-IX Contact
Paul Emmons
paul at emmons.mx
Tue Nov 17 21:41:37 UTC 2020
still trying to post . . .
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Subject: Re: Phoenix-IX Contact
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 13:15:34 -0700
From: Paul Emmons <paul at iosaz.net>
To: nanog at nanog.org
Hello All!
I've been out of the loop here and but have some updates.
There was a change last spring and I moved on to other projects. But
that hasn't worked out for the IX.
I have regained access to all of the elements, including the email and
voip. Let me reach out to each of you offline in the coming days.
I have been able to reach out to a few locals that are willing to help
get the project back up to where it needs to be.
If I haven;t reached out to you in the next 48 hours or you have
something urgent, please reach out to me here (my personal email) or via
the Phoenix-IX Contacts
peering at phoenix-ix.net
+1 602 688-6414
~Paul Emmons
On 11/16/2020 12:23 PM, Neil Hanlon wrote:
> While I agree it is objectively irresponsible to abandon a project
> without passing it to another, I think that possibly in this situation
> we don't know all the details?
>
> 2020 has been a difficult year for everyone. Perhaps Paul (and
> whomever else may be responsible for Phoenix-IX) were subject to
> things this year beyond their control which led them to be unable to
> work on the project and unable to transfer it, either.. unfortunate,
> yes.. but not malicious surely.
>
> If Paul _is_ reading these messages.. I think support is the best path
> forward.. If there are things that can be done to assist/take over the
> IX... maybe that would help (as you, Kate, had offered towards the
> beginning of this all). Though of course, the first step is _reaching_
> them... Maybe this can be turned into a "win" for everyone. So:
> Paul/Phoenix-IX -- let the NANOG community know how they/we can help.
>
> --
> Neil
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 2:05 PM Kate Gerry <kgerry at outlook.com
> <mailto:kgerry at outlook.com>> wrote:
>
> An update on my side, we reached out to PhoenixNAP, one of the
> Phoenix-IX's vendors.
>
> PhoenixNAP reached out all of their contacts at Phoenix-IX and
> have received no response. They are in as much of the dark as the
> rest of us. I feel like I'm on the Ghost ship Phoenix-IX.
>
> What I don't understand, is how somebody could abandon a project
> without passing it to another person or entity. This is extremely
> irresponsible.
>
> —
> Kate
>
>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 05:11, Marcus Josephson <mjosephson at inap.com
>> <mailto:mjosephson at inap.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I tried to get a link to PHX-IX for months. Never heard back from
>> them, went with Digital Realty Phoenix
>> *From:*NANOG <nanog-bounces+mjosephson=inap.com at nanog.org
>> <mailto:nanog-bounces+mjosephson=inap.com at nanog.org>>*On Behalf
>> Of*Kate Gerry
>> *Sent:*Tuesday, November 10, 2020 11:06 AM
>> *To:*Matt Hoppes <mattlists at rivervalleyinternet.net
>> <mailto:mattlists at rivervalleyinternet.net>>
>> *Cc:*nanog at nanog.org <mailto:nanog at nanog.org> list
>> <nanog at nanog.org <mailto:nanog at nanog.org>>
>> *Subject:*Re: Phoenix-IX Contact
>> Matt,
>> I am running on a huge assumption here, but I think Phoenix-IX
>> runs on donated infrastructure. From what I recall, there was
>> only an NRC to join Phoenix-IX.
>> And in regards to Walt's suggestion, it looks like HE already
>> started one with Stellar Technologies. https://48ix.net
>> <https://48ix.net/> but it is only in a single facility. So until
>> that IX grows, both in peers and footprint, I'm stuck on Phoenix-IX.
>> I have wondered what happens if a participant storms the IX. Will
>> somebody appear? Because attempts to reach their NOC/peering
>> handles has resulted in a lack of response.
>> I also wonder how the other Ninja-IX exchanges are running, I
>> haven't heard anything about them, is there the same lack of
>> communication? Or do those have a local staff?
>> —
>> Kate
>>
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2020, at 06:15, Matt Hoppes
>> <mattlists at rivervalleyinternet.net
>> <mailto:mattlists at rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
>> How is the IX still running? Surely someone must be paying
>> colo rent?
>>
>> On 11/10/20 9:03 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>>
>> Always a good time for network operators to consider the
>> risks of having any one person as a single point of
>> failure for something kind of important:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor>
>> Disaster recovery and continuity of business plans should
>> always include the concept of what if some percentage of
>> the key team members were to be suddenly unavailable
>> permanently (the Malaysian airline incident, for example).
>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:08 PM Kate Gerry
>> <kgerry at outlook.com <mailto:kgerry at outlook.com
>> <mailto:kgerry at outlook.com%20%3cmailto:kgerry at outlook.com>>>
>> wrote:
>> Is there anybody else even there? I thought that it
>> was all Paul's show!
>> If I was able to (as in, had access to), I would offer
>> to help/run
>> with the IX. I may live in California, but it's a
>> realistic car trip
>> back and forth to Phoenix.
>> --
>> Kate
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2020, at 17:58, Mike Hammett
>> <nanog at ics-il.net
>> <mailto:nanog at ics-il.net
>> <mailto:nanog at ics-il.net%0b%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%3cmailto:nanog at ics-il.net>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Paul's LinkedIn seems to show that he checked out
>> in April. Let me
>> know if you have any success reaching anyone there.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> <http://www.ics-il.com/ <http://www.ics-il.com/>>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>><https://twitter.com/ICSIL
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/ <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>><https://twitter.com/mdwestix
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/
>> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>><https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:*"Kate Gerry" <kgerry at outlook.com
>> <mailto:kgerry at outlook.com
>> <mailto:kgerry at outlook.com%20%3cmailto:kgerry at outlook.com>>>
>> *To:*"Bill Woodcock" <woody at pch.net
>> <mailto:woody at pch.net
>> <mailto:woody at pch.net%20%3cmailto:woody at pch.net>>>
>> *Cc:*nanog at nanog.org <mailto:nanog at nanog.org>
>> <mailto:nanog at nanog.org <mailto:nanog at nanog.org>>
>> *Sent:*Monday, November 9, 2020 5:44:42 PM
>> *Subject:*Re: Phoenix-IX Contact
>>
>> Just a heads-up, I never heard a word from anybody
>> at Phoenix-IX.
>>
>> Is there anybody still running the IX? Or is it
>> just on autopilot?
>> It'd be nice if anybody had some information on
>> whatever happened
>> to Paul. Hopefully he is okay!
>>
>> --
>> Kate
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2020, at 13:33, Kate Gerry
>> <kgerry at outlook.com
>> <mailto:kgerry at outlook.com
>> <mailto:kgerry at outlook.com%0b%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%3cmailto:kgerry at outlook.com>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank Bill! I've been trying to reach Paul for
>> ages now,
>> hopefully he pops back up again. We want to
>> upgrade.
>>
>> On an unrelated note, it looks like somebody
>> has their ticket
>> system subscribed to the list... Awesome.
>>
>> *From: *Dating Support
>> <dating.support at csvwebsupport.com
>> <mailto:dating.support at csvwebsupport.com
>> <mailto:dating.support at csvwebsupport.com%0b%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%3cmailto:dating.support at csvwebsupport.com>>>
>> *Subject: **[#WQV-291-95071]: Phoenix-IX
>> Contact*
>> *Date: *September 14, 2020 at 12:43:20 PDT
>> *To:*kgerry at outlook.com
>> <mailto:*kgerry at outlook.com><mailto:kgerry at outlook.com
>> <mailto:kgerry at outlook.com>>
>> *Reply-To:*dating.support at csvwebsupport.com
>> <mailto:*dating.support at csvwebsupport.com>
>> <mailto:dating.support at csvwebsupport.com
>> <mailto:dating.support at csvwebsupport.com>>
>>
>> Kate Gerry,
>>
>> Thank you for contacting us. This is an
>> automated response
>> confirming the receipt of your ticket. Our
>> team will get
>> back to you within 24 hours.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kate
>>
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2020, at 12:48, Bill Woodcock
>> <woody at pch.net
>> <mailto:woody at pch.net
>> <mailto:woody at pch.net%0b%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%3cmailto:woody at pch.net>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Kate Gerry
>> <kgerry at outlook.com
>> <mailto:kgerry at outlook.com
>> <mailto:kgerry at outlook.com%20%3cmailto:kgerry at outlook.com>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Does anybody have a contact who works
>> at Phoenix-IX? I
>> have been attempting to reach somebody
>> there for a
>> while now without any luck.
>>
>> Attempts to each
>> outtopeering at phoenix-ix.net
>> <mailto:topeering at phoenix-ix.net>
>> <mailto:peering at phoenix-ix.net
>> <mailto:peering at phoenix-ix.net>>as well as Ninja-IX
>> have been without any luck. We also
>> tried reaching out
>> to Paul Emmons via LinkedIn mail and
>> never received a
>> response.
>>
>>
>> Paul is the correct person.
>>
>> -Bill
>>
>
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