Phoenix-IX Contact

Marcus Josephson mjosephson at inap.com
Thu Nov 12 13:11:25 UTC 2020


I tried to get a link to PHX-IX for months. Never heard back from them, went with Digital Realty Phoenix


From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+mjosephson=inap.com at nanog.org> On Behalf Of Kate Gerry
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 11:06 AM
To: Matt Hoppes <mattlists at rivervalleyinternet.net>
Cc: nanog at nanog.org list <nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Phoenix-IX Contact

Matt,

I am running on a huge assumption here, but I think Phoenix-IX runs on donated infrastructure. From what I recall, there was only an NRC to join Phoenix-IX.

And in regards to Walt's suggestion, it looks like HE already started one with Stellar Technologies. https://48ix.net but it is only in a single facility. So until that IX grows, both in peers and footprint, I'm stuck on Phoenix-IX.

I have wondered what happens if a participant storms the IX. Will somebody appear? Because attempts to reach their NOC/peering handles has resulted in a lack of response.

I also wonder how the other Ninja-IX exchanges are running, I haven't heard anything about them, is there the same lack of communication? Or do those have a local staff?

—
Kate


On Nov 10, 2020, at 06:15, Matt Hoppes <mattlists at rivervalleyinternet.net<mailto:mattlists at rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:

How is the IX still running?  Surely someone must be paying colo rent?

On 11/10/20 9:03 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

Always a good time for network operators to consider the risks of having any one person as a single point of failure for something kind of important:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
Disaster recovery and continuity of business plans should always include the concept of what if some percentage of the key team members were to be suddenly unavailable permanently (the Malaysian airline incident, for example).
On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:08 PM Kate Gerry <kgerry at outlook.com <mailto:kgerry at outlook.com<mailto:kgerry at outlook.com%20%3cmailto:kgerry at outlook.com>>> wrote:
   Is there anybody else even there? I thought that it was all Paul's show!
   If I was able to (as in, had access to), I would offer to help/run
   with the IX. I may live in California, but it's a realistic car trip
   back and forth to Phoenix.
   --
   Kate

   On Nov 9, 2020, at 17:58, Mike Hammett <nanog at ics-il.net
   <mailto:nanog at ics-il.net<mailto:nanog at ics-il.net%0b   %3cmailto:nanog at ics-il.net>>> wrote:

   Paul's LinkedIn seems to show that he checked out in April. Let me
   know if you have any success reaching anyone there.



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   *From:*"Kate Gerry" <kgerry at outlook.com <mailto:kgerry at outlook.com<mailto:kgerry at outlook.com%20%3cmailto:kgerry at outlook.com>>>
   *To:*"Bill Woodcock" <woody at pch.net <mailto:woody at pch.net<mailto:woody at pch.net%20%3cmailto:woody at pch.net>>>
   *Cc:*nanog at nanog.org <mailto:nanog at nanog.org>
   *Sent:*Monday, November 9, 2020 5:44:42 PM
   *Subject:*Re: Phoenix-IX Contact

   Just a heads-up, I never heard a word from anybody at Phoenix-IX.

   Is there anybody still running the IX? Or is it just on autopilot?
   It'd be nice if anybody had some information on whatever happened
   to Paul. Hopefully he is okay!

   --
   Kate

       On Sep 14, 2020, at 13:33, Kate Gerry <kgerry at outlook.com
       <mailto:kgerry at outlook.com<mailto:kgerry at outlook.com%0b       %3cmailto:kgerry at outlook.com>>> wrote:

       Thank Bill! I've been trying to reach Paul for ages now,
       hopefully he pops back up again. We want to upgrade.

       On an unrelated note, it looks like somebody has their ticket
       system subscribed to the list... Awesome.

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           Kate Gerry,

           Thank you for contacting us. This is an automated response
           confirming the receipt of your ticket. Our team will get
           back to you within 24 hours.


       --
       Kate


           On Sep 14, 2020, at 12:48, Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net
           <mailto:woody at pch.net<mailto:woody at pch.net%0b           %3cmailto:woody at pch.net>>> wrote:



               On Sep 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Kate Gerry
               <kgerry at outlook.com <mailto:kgerry at outlook.com<mailto:kgerry at outlook.com%20%3cmailto:kgerry at outlook.com>>> wrote:

               Does anybody have a contact who works at Phoenix-IX? I
               have been attempting to reach somebody there for a
               while now without any luck.

               Attempts to each out topeering at phoenix-ix.net<mailto:topeering at phoenix-ix.net>
               <mailto:peering at phoenix-ix.net>as well as Ninja-IX
               have been without any luck. We also tried reaching out
               to Paul Emmons via LinkedIn mail and never received a
               response.


           Paul is the correct person.

                                          -Bill

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