Switch for SFP+

Mon May 18 21:52:06 UTC 2020

I could never get LACP + tagged VLANs to work on SwOS. 

Then again, it doesn't work reliably on RouterOS either, so I gave up. Spending more on hardware that is well supported is worth it versus my time and sanity. 

I think Ubiquiti pretty much has the "cheap hardware that works well, but commercial support lacking" market cornered. 

thanks, 
-Randy 

----- On May 18, 2020, at 5:43 PM, nanog <nanog at nanog.org> wrote: 

> Yep, run SwichOS, prevents you from running things in software. 😊

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> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces at nanog.org> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 4:37 PM
> To: Mauro Gasparini <mjgasparini at gmail.com>
> Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+

> That's a downfall of Mikrotik, they give you ultimate power. You can do some
> pretty atypical things on there.

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> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 1:45:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+

> It's clear then that I must use "bridge vlan" to achieve the goal I am looking
> for.
> Now it's time for me to study, research and test on my side.
> If I have any specific questions, I will draw on your experience.
> Thanks a lot.

> El 15/5/20 a las 22:11, Travis Garrison escribió:

>> On the CRS 3xx line, use vlan filtering instead. This guarantees hardware
>> offloading.

>> PS. Do not use this method on the 1xx or 2xx lines.

>> /interface bonding
>> add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8
>> transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3

>> /interface bridge

>> add name=bridge vlan-filtering=yes

>> /interface bridge port

>> add bridge=bridge interface=bond-inet

>> add bridge=bridge interface=sfp1

>> /interface bridge vlan

>> add bridge=bridge tagged=bond-inet,sfp1 vlan-ids=201

>> Thanks

>> Travis

>> From: NANOG [ mailto:nanog-bounces at nanog.org | <nanog-bounces at nanog.org> ] On
>> Behalf Of Mauro Gasparini
>> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 10:55 AM
>> To: [ mailto:nanog at nanog.org | nanog at nanog.org ]
>> Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+

>> This works well on my CRSs:

>> /interface bonding
>> add mode=802.3ad name=bond-inet slaves=ether9,ether10,ether8
>> transmit-hash-policy=layer-2-and-3

>> /interface bridge port
>> add bridge=br-cabase interface=bond-inet
>> add bridge=br-cabase interface=sfp1

>> But if I want to bridge vlans behind some bonding Instead of bridging phy
>> interfaces, cpu explodes:

>> /interface vlan
>> add name=vl201-mmen vlan-id=201 interface=sfp1
>> add name=vl201-mment vlan-id=201 interface=bond-inet

>> /interface bridge port
>> add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mmen
>> add bridge=br-mment interface=vl201-mment

>> El 15/5/20 a las 12:06, Mike Hammett escribió:

>>> [ https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CRS3xx_series_switches#Bonding |
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>>> From: "Mauro Gasparini" [ mailto:mjgasparini at gmail.com | <mjgasparini at gmail.com>
>>> ]
>>> To: [ mailto:nanog at nanog.org | nanog at nanog.org ]
>>> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 8:55:22 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+

>>> Thanks. I am currently using CRS326-24G-2S+ (with routerOS) for this, but when I
>>> want to do vlan trunking through the bonding, cpu load grows from 3% to more
>>> than 90%.
>>> I'm consulting Mikrotik's support in the meantime, because routerOS probably
>>> doesn't take advantage of the switch hardware as swOS would.

>>> El 15/5/20 a las 10:03, Alain Hebert escribió:

>>>> Hi,

>>>> Mikrotik is a decent product and I'm always amazed at their features set, but...

>>>> Using the UI to configuring the switch will punt too much traffic toward the
>>>> CPU. However, it is possible to configure the switch fabric with the cli and
>>>> attain the desired results.

>>>> It does not compare to a JNP QFX5100 or a Extreme Network x650, x670... etc.
>>>> -----
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>>>> On 2020-05-14 15:11, Adam Thompson wrote:

>>>>> Have you actually looked at Mikrotik switches? I don't like the OS, but the
>>>>> hardware does what you want it to.

>>>>> [
>>>>> https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r=%7b%22sfp_plus_interface%22:%7b%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22%7d%7d#!
>>>>> |
>>>>> https://mikrotik.com/products/group/switches?filter&s=c&r={%22sfp_plus_interface%22:{%22s%22:%223%22,%22e%22:%2224%22}}#!
>>>>> ]

>>>>> If necessary, buy your SFP modules from FS.com and get them coded as Mikrotik
>>>>> modules at the factory - that's what we do for Cisco, Brocade, Juniper,
>>>>> Extreme, etc.

>>>>> Even the top-of-the-line Mikrotik only costs US$899.

>>>>> -Adam

>>>>> Adam Thompson
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>>>>> From: NANOG [ mailto:nanog-bounces at nanog.org | <nanog-bounces at nanog.org> ] on
>>>>> behalf of Mauro Gasparini [ mailto:mjgasparini at gmail.com |
>>>>> <mjgasparini at gmail.com> ]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 8:46:21 AM
>>>>> To: Mehmet Akcin
>>>>> Cc: nanog
>>>>> Subject: Re: Switch for SFP+

>>>>> Thank you. The problem is that to get a price lower than U$D 3000 I have to
>>>>> resort to a used device.

>>>>> El 14/5/20 a las 01:08, Mehmet Akcin escribió:

>>>>>> Used Juniper QFX5100-48T will do it. Probably overkill but you can grab one
>>>>>> cheap @ebay

>>>>>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 16:36 Mauro Gasparini < [ mailto:mjgasparini at gmail.com |
>>>>>> mjgasparini at gmail.com ] > wrote:

>>>>>>> Good afternoon.

>>>>>>> I'm looking for a switch with the following capabilities:
>>>>>>> . transport for more than 20 gbps
>>>>>>> . link aggregation LACP
>>>>>>> . slots for SFP+
>>>>>>> . seamlessly when trunking vlans through the link aggregation.

>>>>>>> And essentially that doesn't exceed US$D 2000 and is compatible with
>>>>>>> 10GBASE-ER and/or 10GBASE-ZR modules that are not from the vendor itself
>>>>>>> (e.g. SPFs: Huawei, Mikrotik, Sumitomo, OEMs).

>>>>>>> If any of you have a good experience with a device that meets these
>>>>>>> requirements (which are minimal with the exception of price and
>>>>>>> compatibility) ?

>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>> Mauro Gasparini
>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Mehmet
>>>>>> +1-424-298-1903
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