alternative to voip gateways

Colton Conor colton.conor at
Mon May 11 12:19:18 UTC 2020

"Integrated metallic testing on the combo cards helps reduce truck rolls" I
can't stress this feature enough. Being mainly a data only CLEC, we wanted
to buy the cheaper, non-combo, data only DSL cards. However, Adtran, Calix,
Zhone, and Nokia confirmed that without the SIP to FXS combo function, you
loose the  Integrated metallic testing" This means you can't test loop
length (without a dsl modem trained on the other end), can't test if you
have a cross, foreign voltage, etc. Yes, this can be done with a field
tester, but the cost of sending a tech out to do that is much more of an

DSL only data ports were around $30 a port, and combo were like $50 a port
from what I remember.

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 8:08 PM Nick Edwards <nick.z.edwards at>

> On 5/11/20, Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl at> wrote:
> > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 4:16 PM Mike Hammett <nanog at> wrote:
> >
> >> If POTS last mile is available, why complicate it with VoIP?
> >>
> >>
> > Because it is cheaper and easier? It is a lot of equipment there simply
> > does not need to be there. If you have DSL you have CPE equipment and
> that
> > CPE equipment can have FXP out for very little extra. You also save
> having
> > filters to separate DSL and voice.
> >
> Not really cheaper, modems with VoIP tend to be a bit more pricey so
> that 50 odd or CPE now becomes 80-100, doubling our per port cost
> and what is an FXP?   I think you mean FXS port.
> > In any case, even the ILEC here is dropping analog and delivering phone
> > services via VoIP and FXP out on the CPE. I believe because the
> wasnt there a hige shit stom in australia for their new national
> broadband network making internet ptrimary and phone secondary, a lot
> of aussies on forums I frequent bitch about its reliability, where
> even their aged copper services worked fine, not to mention prolonged
> outages due to storms and the bushfires they had recently,  lets hope
> the world learns from australias mistakes and not go down that path.
> >
> >
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