Chairman Pai Proposes Mandating STIR/SHAKEN To Combat Robocalls

Tue Mar 10 02:28:35 UTC 2020

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 9:25 PM Ross Tajvar <ross at tajvar.io> wrote:
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> What is an "ebony phone"? (Google results for that phrase are mostly porn.)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1950S-WESTERN-ELECTRIC-EBONY-BLACK-ROTARY-DIAL-DESK-TELEPHONE-/333465026527

I agree, that's a form of porn.
#rule34

-chris

> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 12:55 PM Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 4:10 AM Bryan Holloway <bryan at shout.net> wrote:
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>> > On 3/7/20 8:03 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>> > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:05 PM Brian J. Murrell <brian at interlinx.bc.ca> wrote:
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>> > >> So, if my telco can bill the callers for those premium calls, they
>> > >> surely know who they are, or at least know where they are sending the
>> > >> bill and getting payment from.
>> > >
>> > > You are mistaken, billing is very hard.
>> > > Telcos show this regularly.
>> > >
>> >
>> > On the contrary: billing is easy. Getting it right is hard.
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>> You are technically correct, the best kind of correct.
>>
>> Seriously though, a bunch of the conversation about shaken/stir and
>> various problems with spam callers reveals:
>>   "telcos don't care (for any reason you can imagine)"
>>   "gov't mandates aren't  really going to help"
>>   "people care as recipients of these calls, but really there are
>> options for them as well to not get the calls (or not answer them)"
>>
>> I like that Mr Thomas's answer: "Why can't we just cryptpgraphically
>> sign the caller's ANI and use that as a method to ID real callers we
>> care about?"
>> since that was my suggestion to the stir folk in their very first
>> meeting... "what about ebony phones!" said the lawyer from
>> telco-ville.