Chairman Pai Proposes Mandating STIR/SHAKEN To Combat Robocalls

Sat Mar 7 17:53:07 UTC 2020

On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 4:10 AM Bryan Holloway <bryan at shout.net> wrote:
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> On 3/7/20 8:03 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:05 PM Brian J. Murrell <brian at interlinx.bc.ca> wrote:
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> >> So, if my telco can bill the callers for those premium calls, they
> >> surely know who they are, or at least know where they are sending the
> >> bill and getting payment from.
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> > You are mistaken, billing is very hard.
> > Telcos show this regularly.
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> On the contrary: billing is easy. Getting it right is hard.

You are technically correct, the best kind of correct.

Seriously though, a bunch of the conversation about shaken/stir and
various problems with spam callers reveals:
  "telcos don't care (for any reason you can imagine)"
  "gov't mandates aren't  really going to help"
  "people care as recipients of these calls, but really there are
options for them as well to not get the calls (or not answer them)"

I like that Mr Thomas's answer: "Why can't we just cryptpgraphically
sign the caller's ANI and use that as a method to ID real callers we
care about?"
since that was my suggestion to the stir folk in their very first
meeting... "what about ebony phones!" said the lawyer from
telco-ville.