Outsourced NOC Solutions
nanog at ics-il.net
Mon Jun 8 23:00:54 UTC 2020
Hrm, I got the impression from the OP that they're constructing a new network and contemplating lighting a single pair for telemetry and whole cable breaks.
I did not get the impression that they were getting strands from someone else and lighting it for sale to customers.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mel Beckman" <mel at beckman.org>
To: "James Jun" <james.jun at towardex.com>
Cc: nanog at nanog.org
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 5:55:51 PM
Subject: Re: Outsourced NOC Solutions
My understanding is that the OP wants to put the equipment on the fiber that he leases from a supplier. That’s the question
-mel via cell
> On Jun 8, 2020, at 2:38 PM, James Jun <james.jun at towardex.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 08:10:44PM +0000, Mel Beckman wrote:
>> I???m not talking about a full-time engineer for the life of the network, just for designing the infrastructure management before first customer light.
>> -mel via cell
> Dude, it's dark fiber.
> I for one, do _NOT_ in any shape or form, want my DF provider to put any equipment (monitoring, or otherwise) on strands I lease, period. I just want
> tubes in the ground, end of story. This is certainly not an airplane and does not need a pilot. It's passive tubes sitting on right of way and customer
> is licensed to pass light thru that passive tube. Everything else is extra, and I want no active service whatsoever (besides for power capacity at
> regen plant colo).
> If there is a disturbance event that creates LOS alarm on customer equipment, they will call in and open a ticket to begin troubleshooting.
> Name me one dark fiber provider in northeast that (unless you buy their managed dark fiber solution) will monitor your fiber strands and the customer
> light for you. I can tell you, major fiber providers in northeast are all the same: the customer is the monitoring system. If fiber is down, customers
> call in. In fact, I can't recount how many times I've had dealing with a large fiber provider here (unnamed to protect the guilty) who also requests
> and asks customers to shoot OTDR for them.
> Generally speaking, dark fiber providers who also compete with their customers (e.g. fiber provider that sells lit services) have tendency to react
> faster to certain fiber cuts on certain routes, if their backbone links are sitting in them. But for specialty dark fiber providers who only sell dark,
> it's not a bad idea to light one of the strands for internal continuity checks; but at worst case scenario, when a customer calls in to report an LOS
> alarm and suspects fiber disturbance, that's usually enough information to start sending your crews out and begin taking traces.
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