power to the internet

Tom Beecher beecher at beecher.cc
Fri Jan 3 03:12:08 UTC 2020


I'm familiar with the Sir Adam Beck plant, I grew up in and live in Niagara
County.

Not everything produced by the NYPA goes to munis. There is a lot sold
direct to businesses; last I checked roughly 5% of the generation from the
Niagara Power Project is allocated for businesses in WNY in a 30 mile ring.
( Although a sizeable chunk of that goes back to the wholesale markets
because there aren't enough qualified companies to take it. )

I can guarantee that some of that power ended up with you. Every commercial
supplier in NY buys from the wholesale market at some point, and a lot of
NYPA power ends up there.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 6:04 PM John Levine <johnl at iecc.com> wrote:

> In article <CAL9Qcx5PkJ1RZqjrUiKoGe=1+oOwSc6zkhPFemJGn_EV2ur=
> Qw at mail.gmail.com> you write:
> >-=-=-=-=-=-
> >It helps that we have a 2.6GW pumped storage generation facility near
> >Niagara Falls. :)
>
> It does, but all that power goes to the munis, not the commercial
> company that supplies me.  We do import a lot of hydro power from
> Quebec.  There's another power plant the same size on the other side
> of the river that provides power for Toronto.
>
>
> >On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 5:05 PM Scott Weeks <surfer at mauigateway.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> ---------------------
> >> > I don't know where you live, but I pay around 38 cents/KWh. Depending
> >> > on your rate, that can go up to 53 cents/KWh during peak times.
> >>
> >> I live in upstate New York where I pay about 8c/kwh and a fixed $15/mo
> >> connection charge.  We have day/night rates available but they're not
> very
> >> different for retail customers.  I get a slight discount due to credits
> >> from remote net metering at a nearby solar farm.
>
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