DiviNetworks

Thu Feb 6 21:32:08 UTC 2020

They're not sending traffic from their own IPs, right?  So they're leasing
yours (whether they make that explicit or not).  And that carries all the
implications/risks Mike mentioned.

Damian

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:37 PM Justin Wilson <lists at mtin.net> wrote:

> They don’t lease your IP space is the thing.
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> Justin Wilson
> lists at mtin.net
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> On Feb 6, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Mike Fuller <mjf at google.com> wrote:
>
> I'd be very cautious about engaging with any company whose business model
> is to get a short-term lease of your IP-space.  Many companies use IP
> reputation data, and so you are essentially lending that reputation to a
> 3rd party, who may use it in ways you don't anticipate until the reputation
> is sufficiently damaged, and then return it to you and move on to another
> ISP.
>
> Some organizations' response to unwanted traffic is simply to block large
> IP ranges or entire ASes, and not everyone is good about following-up and
> expiring such blocks in the future.  I realize your customers haven't
> ended-up on any spam/abuse blocklists, but that doesn't mean they won't be,
> or that their IP reputation hasn't already been affected in less obvious
> ways.  You should ask yourself if you are being sufficiently compensated
> for these risks as reputable IPv4 space is at a premium, so replacing the
> IPv4 space you lent out could get quite costly.
>
> --
> Mike Fuller :: Security Reliability Engineer :: Google :: AS15169
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> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 12:15 PM Justin Wilson <lists at mtin.net> wrote:
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>> Have several networks using them.  This he networks get paid, and no
>> blacklists.  Contact me off list if you want more details
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>> Justin Wilson
>> lists at mtin.net
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>> https://j2sw.com - All things jsw (AS209109)
>> https://blog.j2sw.com - Podcast and Blog
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>> > On Feb 5, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Steve Saner <ssaner at hubris.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Has anyone here worked with DiviNetworks (https://divinetworks.com/)
>> to "sell" their unused bandwidth?
>> >
>> > I'd be curious to hear any thoughts or experiences.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
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