Abuse Desks

Wed Apr 29 15:37:29 UTC 2020

SRonan,

If only such a standard were feasible :)

 -mel beckman

> On Apr 29, 2020, at 8:25 AM, "sronan at ronan-online.com" <sronan at ronan-online.com> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps some organization of Network Operators should come up with an objective standard of what constitutes “abuse” and a standard format for reporting it.
> 
> If only there was such an organization.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Chris Adams <cma at cmadams.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Once upon a time, Mukund Sivaraman <muks at mukund.org> said:
>>> If an abuse report is incorrect, then it is fair to complain.
>> 
>> The thing is: are 3 failed SSH logins from an IP legitimately "abuse"?
>> 
>> I've typoed IP/FQDN before and gotten an SSH response, and taken several
>> tries before I realized my error.  Did I actually "abuse" someone's
>> server?  I didn't get in, and it's hard to say that the server resources
>> I used with a few failed tries were anything more than negligible.
>> 
>> I've had users tripped up by fail2ban because they were trying to access
>> a server they don't use often and took several tries to get the password
>> right or had the wrong SSH key.  Should that have triggered an abuse
>> email?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Chris Adams <cma at cmadams.net>