Cogent sales reps who actually respond

Christopher Morrow morrowc.lists at gmail.com
Wed Sep 18 17:29:48 UTC 2019


On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 11:54 AM Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> wrote:
>
> Please see the following link:
>
> https://afrinic.net/resource-certification
>
> As you can see, a MyAFRINIC account is required.
>

seems like you should do this step, then do the rpki step.

> Yes, route objects for legacy AFRINIC resources in their RIR operated IRRDB as a fallback for RPKI can be created and they were created by us.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Martijn Schmidt <martijnschmidt at i3d.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 1:45 AM
> To: Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io>; nanog at nanog.org <nanog at nanog.org>; Martijn Schmidt <martijnschmidt at i3d.net>
> Subject: Re: Cogent sales reps who actually respond
>
> Hi Elad,
>
> Is this policy officially documented by AFRINIC somewhere? Can you make route objects for legacy AFRINIC resources in their RIR operated IRRDB as a fallback for RPKI?
>
> Best regards,
> Martijn ________________________________
> From: Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io>
> Sent: 18 September 2019 00:40:13
> To: Martijn Schmidt <martijnschmidt at i3d.net>; nanog at nanog.org <nanog at nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: Cogent sales reps who actually respond
>
> Hello Martin, unfortunately RPKI is not yet technically possible for a legacy range in Afrinic.
> ________________________________
> From: Martijn Schmidt <martijnschmidt at i3d.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 11:44 PM
> To: Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io>; Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com>; nanog at nanog.org <nanog at nanog.org>; Martijn Schmidt <martijnschmidt at i3d.net>
> Subject: Re: Cogent sales reps who actually respond
>
> Hi Elad,
>
> If you were to create RPKI ROAs for the IPs in question that'd end the discussion about prefix ownership once and for all. It's the best way to definitively prove, in public, that the accusations of theft are false. And it also helps to protect your resources from accidental leaks or hijacks, so that's a nice bonus. :)
>
> Best regards,
> Martijn Schmidt ________________________________
> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces at nanog.org> on behalf of Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io>
> Sent: 17 September 2019 11:09:19
> To: Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com>; nanog at nanog.org <nanog at nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: Cogent sales reps who actually respond
>
> The defamatory and invective words, the mudslinging and slander of my name, by Ronald Guilmette, are not true at all and they are completely false, in my hand there are all the purchases approval for purchasing ipv4 and that were paid completely by me.
>
> Anyone who wants confirmation the ips belong to us can sent me a direct e-mail and i would be happy to explain and provide evidence. thank you.
> ________________________________
> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces at nanog.org> on behalf of Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 7:07 AM
> To: nanog at nanog.org <nanog at nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: Cogent sales reps who actually respond
>
> In message <F10C362E-3E8E-477D-88B7-02A8EBCA2426 at gmail.com>,
> "Stephen M." <stephen.myspam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Please don't praise or complain like we're supposed to take
> >it at a total face value. If you don=E2=80=99t like them so much - we are
> >you're audience. Explain.
> >
> >If you like Cogent - explain.
> >If you don=E2=80=99t like Cogent - explain.
>
> I see that many others have already chimed in to comment on Cogent's
> technical prowess, or lack thereof, and on Cogent's customer service,
> or lack thereof.
>
> These things are neither my forte nor my concern.  My issue with the company
> is what I believe is, and rightly should be a meta-issue that should be of
> overriding concern of all who use or work on the Internet, i.e. the degree
> to which the company, wittingly or othewise, has enabled theft or squatting
> on -numerous- large chunks of IPv4 space by what amount to Internet criminals.
>
> I already detailed my concerns here, and quite recently:
>
>    https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2019-September/102944.html
>
> The case is both clear and unambiguous.  Some little guy by the name of Elad
> Cohen, living and working in Israel, who has some little two-bit "hosting"
> company, has been, in very recent times, rather blatantly squatting on
> numerous previously abandoned legacy blocks...  /16 after /16 after /16...
> perhaps 20 or more such blocks... all of them being used, self evidently,
> by Mr. Cohen, and many most or all of which Mr. Cohen demonstratably has
> no legitimate rights to whatsoever... like the blocks he squatted on which
> belong to the Australian national government's Department of Finance, and
> another seemingly abandoned legacy /16 that belongs to the City of Cape
> Town, South Africa.
>
> And who were the primary enablers of all of this fraud and theft?  Well,
> it was Mr. Cohen's helpful friends at a hosting company called FDCServers,
> headquartered in the one American city most known for its high ideals
> and consistantly ethical behavior, Chicago.  FDCServers is not a big
> company, so I have to assume that its CEO, Mr. Petr Kral, was not entirely
> oblivious to Mr. Cohen's crooked shenanigans, especially after I personally
> and explicitly informed him of it all.
>
>     https://www.linkedin.com/in/fdcservers
>
> But the thing of it is that FDCServers, which appears to be a major customer
> of Cogent, does none of its own routing, preferring instead to have their
> bigger pals, Cogent (AS174) route all of this stolen IPv4 real estate to
> their customer, Mr. Cohen, on their behalf.... which Cogent apparently
> continued to do, right up through and including this past weekend, e.g.
> for the stolen blocks 165.53.0.0/16 and 168.206.0.0/16.
>
> My beef with both Cogent and FDCServers is simple.  They both took Cohen's
> money and quite clearly didn't ask -any- reasonable questions, prefering
> instead to just accept Cohen's blatant forgeries as "evidence" of his
> ownership of the stolen blocks they routed for him.  And they continued
> to do that, and only that, until well after I had explicitly and quite
> pointedly informed them of the self-evident problems with Mr. Cohen and
> his blatantly crooked business model.
>
> The crimes of Cogent and FDCServers, such as they are, do not rise to the
> level of "receiving stolen property", but I do think that they qualify
> under the heading of -transporting- stolen property.  And believe me,
> if a cop pulls you over while you are driving your van, looks in the
> back and finds a whole lot of stolen bicycles that were ripped off from
> a nearby University campus, your protestations that you were "only
> delivering them to a friend" won't wash to get you out of a short stint
> in the Graybar Hotel.
>
> Cohen, with the help of FDCServers and Cogent, stole millions of dollars
> worth of valuable IPv4 real estate.  Unfortunately, due to the lack of
> sophistication of crinminal authorities, combined with the trans-border
> and international nature of these crimes, Cohen will undoubtedly walk,
> as will Cogent and FDCServers.  (So much for equal justice under law!)
> But I'll tell you straight up that I personally wouldn't trust any of
> these clowns to hold my wallet, not even for five minutes, and not even
> if it were empty.
>
>
> Regards,
> rfg



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