Cogent sales reps who actually respond

Tue Sep 17 01:44:35 UTC 2019

“They also run their links hot which create latency for anything flowing through it.”

Mike, I’d have agreed with you - 15 years ago. Is this current at all?  My views on Cogent have evolved dramatically over the years.  How recent is your data?

-Ben

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 4:21 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The argument has been listed numerous times so i didn’t want to bore people:
> 
> 1. Sprint peering battle. Google it
> 2. He.net peering battle. Google it.
> 3. Google IPv6 peering battle. Google it.
> 
> All of which point to them being pompous assholes.
> 
> They also run their links hot which create latency for anything flowing through it.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mike
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 15:59, Stephen M. <stephen.myspam at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Please don’t praise or complain like we’re supposed to take it at a total face value. If you don’t like them so much - we are you’re audience. Explain. 
>> 
>> If you like Cogent - explain.
>> If you don’t like Cogent - explain.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Stephen
>> 
>> //please pardon any brevities - sent from mobile//
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:01 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Whenever asked about Cogent, i just say, “Friends don’t let friends use Cogent.”
>>> 
>>> I’ve told two of their reps over the past two years that even if the service was free, i wouldn’t use it. And yet, they still call.
>>> 
>>> -Mike
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 13:53, Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In message <E814E5F6-F386-4AAE-BADA-E423D299A4FB at delong.com>, 
>>>>> Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Given their practice of harvesting whois updates in order to spam newly
>>>>> acquired AS contacts, any time it is my decision, Cogent is ineligible
>>>>> as a vendor.
>>>> 
>>>> So I guess then that their aiding and abetting of fraud and IP block
>>>> theft, as I documented here recently, is an entirely secondary concern...
>>>> as long as they don't spam you, yes?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> rfg