Best components for a full mvno core network?

Fri Nov 1 17:53:02 UTC 2019

Dario,

They were very helpful when I went over to them afterwards and asked
questions. If you are interested in an intro let me know.

On a side note Commcon took a lot of effort and there wasn't enough
sponsorship so it may not happen in 2020. If anyone else glances over
videos, finds them useful and would want to sponsor I can put them in touch
with the shows host.

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 11:54 AM Dario Renaud <dario.renaud at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Dovid.
>
> Sipgate needs seems very similar to our own and I’ve got quite a few good
> pointers from that talk.
>
> By the way, a lot of these comcon sessions looks quite interesting, I
> think I will play a few others.
>
> Le mer. 30 oct. 2019 à 23:49, Dovid Bender <dovid at telecurve.com> a écrit :
>
>> This was discussed in detail at commcon. Have a look at
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HdGuCFQYMs&list=PLvNS4EBAxmJKz6E6PLCqBq0eB-KKB6HR0&index=21&t=0s
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 12:51 PM Dario Renaud <dario.renaud at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Javier,
>>>
>>> Well, if we take a step back to goals, I would like first to point that
>>> going Full MVNO might not be the best solution for us (roaming alone seems
>>> like quite a hassle, not to mention handsets management).
>>>
>>> My focus here is narrower, as I am mostly trying here to assert what the
>>> possibilities for the core are, and if there are reasonable alternatives to
>>> the fully integrated solutions of the big providers.
>>>
>>> That being said, I am not sure how our specific goals here would impact
>>> much the architecture: aren’t there a lot of constraints due to the 3GPP
>>> requirements?  It seems to leave little room for creativity.
>>>
>>> To provide a bit of context and answer you:
>>>
>>> We are historically providing solutions on fixed networks, with a strong
>>> bend toward business end-users. We are also used to have a lot of control
>>> over our architecture, most of our services running over open-source and/or
>>> in-house solutions.
>>>
>>> Being able to provide our services on mobile accesses is now a
>>> necessity. For this we already are light MVNO, using two different MNOs.
>>> Thanks to forced routing, it mostly does the job regarding voice. Data
>>> could be managed also. SMS is proving trickier.
>>>
>>> But each MNO have their own products set: building offers that would
>>> work on both is tedious and necessitate compromises that tend to make our
>>> marketing people unhappy. Not to talk about supporting two provisioning
>>> chains, two SIMs supply chains, etc… These problems would only get worse if
>>> we add other MNOs to the mix.
>>>
>>> We are also stuck with the roadmap of the MNOs (VoLTE and VoWifi are but
>>> distant “maybe later” possibilities).
>>>
>>> So, in one word, this is about autonomy. And its cost.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Dario Renaud
>>>
>>> Le ven. 18 oct. 2019 à 17:44, Javier J <javier at advancedmachines.us> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> This is interesting but so many variables to unpack to determin what
>>>> the right solution is. What are the main goals of your org? What exact pain
>>>> points are you trying to fix?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 8:28 AM Dario Renaud <dario.renaud at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> At my day job, we are considering going Full MVNO. Which means
>>>>> building a mobile core network.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was wondering if some of you would have feedback or advices on the
>>>>> solutions currently available?
>>>>>
>>>>> We would like to avoid the big providers (Ericsson & such).
>>>>> Ideally, something opensource, or, if proprietary, a company maybe
>>>>> willing to license access to the code (one can dream).
>>>>>
>>>>> There seems to be a lot of bits and pieces available out there, with a
>>>>> mix of full, fullish or partial solutions. This makes for quite the puzzle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Among the ones I found most interesting:
>>>>>
>>>>> nextEPC, covering, well, the EPC… (https://github.com/nextepc/nextepc).
>>>>> It looks like the more active open EPC implementation out there.
>>>>>
>>>>> And it seems that Yate people have a commercial product covering
>>>>> basically everything needed (
>>>>> https://yatebts.com/solutions_and_technology/mobile_virtual_network_operator/).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Dario Renaud
>>>>>
>>>>
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