Antennas in the data center

Tom Beecher beecher at beecher.cc
Thu Jul 18 16:25:03 UTC 2019


Being told "industry standard" seems like a cop out for "we don't want to
do it". Which is a completely legitimate response, but ideally they'd just
come out and say that.

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:54 AM Robert Webb <rwfireguru at gmail.com> wrote:

> The is booster to only get an LTE signal from Verizon into the data
> center..
>
> For our purpose of needing it, we have a cisco router with LTE for our
> system as a back management access in case of loss to the system by normal
> means.
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:39 AM Andrew Latham <lathama at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Miles that this is more of an infiltration and or
>> ex-filtration of data issue. Can you firewall at the booster? Out of Band
>> management is tricky when LTE bandwidth is so high that one could export
>> large quantities of data.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:28 AM Miles Fidelman <
>> mfidelman at meetinghouse.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It's not quite clear what you mean by "NIST controls" - NIST publishes
>>> standards & guidelines, they don't regulate.
>>>
>>> Now, if you're running a Federal data center, or one for a government
>>> contractor - perhaps you're referring to "NIST Compliance" under FISMA (the
>>> Federal Information Security Management Act) - which involves compliance
>>> with a bunch of FIPS (Federal Information Processing Standards).  See
>>> https://csrc.nist.gov/topics/laws-and-regulations/laws/fisma &
>>> https://digitalguardian.com/blog/what-nist-compliance for some
>>> background.
>>>
>>> Now if I had to guess - I expect that there are some security standards
>>> that would prohibit placing an antenna inside a data center handling any
>>> kind of sensitive or classified data.
>>>
>>> If you have any systems, in the data center, that require security
>>> certification & accreditation, I expect your accreditation authority would
>>> be the person to talk to.  Or your information security officer.
>>> On 7/18/19 9:30 AM, Robert Webb wrote:
>>>
>>> So I have a situation where I am trying to get LTE to an out of band
>>> router and there is no signal available in the data center. There was a
>>> booster setup purchased and I have a manager telling me that standards,
>>> industry and not local, prohibit the installation.
>>>
>>> He has yet to produce any documented industry standard so I thought I
>>> would reach out to see if anyone here has heard of this.
>>>
>>> We fall under NIST controls and I haven't found anything there and have
>>> also looked at TIA and not found anything.
>>>
>>> Thanks...
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 9:09 AM Matt Harris <matt at netfire.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 8:01 AM Robert Webb <rwfireguru at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anyone out there deal with data center design?
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking for any info available which provides guidelines on putting
>>>>> antennas, like LTE booster, in the data center.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not quite sure what you're looking for here Robert. As far as placing
>>>> something like an LTE booster in a data center, you'd just use common sense
>>>> (place it in the best possible place from a connectivity standpoint). Is
>>>> this something you're considering in order to provide service to folks who
>>>> run LTE backup connections on their gear (like serial concentrators)?
>>>> Wireless/RF site surveys and how to do them effectively are pretty
>>>> well-documented at this point.
>>>>
>>>> Or are you asking about roof access/deploying antennas on a rooftop
>>>> safely/securely?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
>>> In practice, there is.  .... Yogi Berra
>>>
>>> Theory is when you know everything but nothing works.
>>> Practice is when everything works but no one knows why.
>>> In our lab, theory and practice are combined:
>>> nothing works and no one knows why.  ... unknown
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> - Andrew "lathama" Latham -
>>
>
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