FCC proposes $10 Million fine for spoofed robocalls

Thu Dec 19 21:16:26 UTC 2019

On 12/19/19 1:09 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
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> On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 11:34:48AM -0800, William Herrin wrote:
>> I don't want to start an arms race with the spam callers, I want to
>> end it. That means: jump directly to something they can't easily
>> defeat.
> It is at this point that I am reminded of the wisdom of former FTC
> Commissioner Orson Swindle, who was testifying before Congress on
> the subject of spam when he said "We need a couple of good hangings here."
> It was true in 2003 (which is I believe when he said it) and it's still
> true now.  Fines, whatever they are, will be evaded and bargained down,
> companies will be dissolved and reconstituted, money will be laundered,
> and the problem will persist.

The problem in 2003 is that we didn't have any way to get to "beyond a 
reasonable doubt". That persists with P-ASSERTED-IDENTITY and what is 
happening is exactly what I said to all of them would happen back in the 
day.

Mike