Weekly Routing Table Report

Nick Hilliard nick at foobar.org
Sat Aug 31 10:46:42 UTC 2019


Masataka Ohta wrote on 31/08/2019 11:35:
> If you can't accept the following principle of the End to End
> argument:
> 
>      The function in question can completely and correctly be
>      implemented only with the knowledge and help of the
>      application standing at the end points of the
>      communication system.

this is a straw man argument. E2E works regardless of the current 
network-based multihoming mechanism or the proposals in 
draft-ohta-e2e-multihoming.

> validity of which is demonstrated by the Internet, and insist
> that something complete and correct is not a solution
> but a workaround

Your proposal is almost a text-book case of RFC1925, section 6:

>    (6)  It is easier to move a problem around (for example, by moving
>         the problem to a different part of the overall network
>         architecture) than it is to solve it.

I.e. instead of having network level complexity, you're proposing to 
shift the problem to maintaining both state and network into the host 
level. No doubt it has some benefits, but this comes at the cost of 
bringing dfz complexity down to the host and all the consequent support, 
scaling and management headaches associated with that. I.e. the problem 
space shifts, but is not solved.

 > feel free to keep using POTS not smart phones.

Thank you, I certainly will. Conversely, please feel free to use 
arguments instead of rhetoric.

Nick



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