Ownership of Routers on Both Ends of Transnational Links

Tue Apr 16 21:57:06 UTC 2019

>
> this is totally true :) but... if the next hop after
> chinaunicom-ic-341501-sjo-b21.c.telia.net is a CU ip... it's better
> than average chance that the
> chinaunicom-ic-341501-sjo-b21.c.telia.net
> address is a telia /30 (or /31) on the ptp link between CU/Telia. That
> Telia owns the ip space and that PROBABLY the customer identification
> is correct. (cu)

Yes, in our case, the next hops after all the six routers are some CU IPs.

Best,
Pengxiong Zhu
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
University of California, Riverside

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 2:34 PM Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 5:19 PM Nimrod Levy <nimrod at nimrod.is-a-geek.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 16:52 Ross Tajvar <ross at tajvar.io> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think it's clear that the IPs belong to Telia, but I understood
> James's point to be that the router using the IP in question may belong to
> China Unicom. (I agree with that, I was not thinking clearly this morning.)
> As this is an interconnect link, one side must belong to Telia and the
> other to China Unicom. The question, then, is which side are we looking at?
> Well, first I want to know how big the subnet is. I assume either /30 or
> /31. So, I do a reverse DNS lookup on all the IPs in the surrounding /30
> block:
> >> 62.115.170.56 - sjo-b21-link.telia.net
> >> 62.115.170.57 - chinaunicom-ic-341501-sjo-b21.c.telia.net
> >> 62.115.170.58 - las-b24-link.telia.net
> >> 62.115.170.59 - chinaunicom-ic-341499-las-b24.c.telia.net
> >> That looks like two /31s. Only one IP in each has the name of China
> Unicom in it, so that one is probably in use by China Unicom, and the other
> is probably in use by Telia.
> >
>
> that was my point yes.
>
> > I think we're making a lot of assumptions about how well PTR records are
> maintained. All of this could be totally accurate. Or...not...
>
> this is totally true :) but... if the next hop after
> chinaunicom-ic-341501-sjo-b21.c.telia.net is a CU ip... it's better
> than average chance that the
> chinaunicom-ic-341501-sjo-b21.c.telia.net
>
> address is a telia /30 (or /31) on the ptp link between CU/Telia. That
> Telia owns the ip space and that PROBABLY the customer identification
> is correct. (cu)
>
> -chris
>
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