Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6

Mon Apr 1 01:21:38 UTC 2019

It is not possible for web pages to load faster over IPv6 than over IPv4.  All other factors being equal, IPv6 has higher overhead than IPv4 for the same payload throughput.  This means that it is physically impossible for IPv6 to be move payload bytes "faster" than IPv4 can move the same payload.

In other words, IPv6 has a higher "packet tax" than IPv4.  Since you have no choice but to pay the "packet tax" the actual payload data flows more slowly.

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The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces at nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ca By
>Sent: Sunday, 31 March, 2019 18:53
>To: Matt Hoppes
>Cc: Aaron C. de Bruyn; NANOG mailing list
>Subject: Re: Frontier rural FIOS & IPv6
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>On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 4:20 PM Matt Hoppes
><mattlists at rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
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>	Going to play devils advocate.
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>	If frontier has a ton of ipv4 addresses, what benefit is there
>to them in rolling out ipv6?
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>	What benefit is there to you?
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>I love xbox and xbox works better on ipv6,
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>https://www.nanog.org/sites/default/files/wed.general.palmer.xbox_.47
>.pdf
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>Also, webpages load faster , and i love fast web pages
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>https://code.fb.com/networking-traffic/ipv6-it-s-time-to-get-on-
>board/
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>https://www.akamai.com/fr/fr/multimedia/documents/technical-
>publication/a-case-for-faster-mobile-web-in-cellular-ipv6-
>networks.pdf
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>	On Mar 31, 2019, at 7:11 PM, C. A. Fillekes
><cfillekes at gmail.com> wrote:
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>		Still it's pretty darn good having real broadband on the
>farm.  One thing at a time.
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>		But, let's start thinking about ways to get Frontier up to
>speed on the IPv6 thing.
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>		On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 4:24 PM Aaron C. de Bruyn
><aaron at heyaaron.com> wrote:
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>			You're not alone.
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>			I talked with my local provider about 4 years ago and
>they said "We will probably start looking into IPv6 next year".
>			I talked with them last month and they said "Yeah,
>everyone seems to be offering it.  I guess I'll have to start reading
>how to implement it".
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>			I'm sure 2045 will finally be the year of IPv6
>everywhere.
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>			-A
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>			On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 7:36 AM C. A. Fillekes
><cfillekes at gmail.com> wrote:
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>				So by COB yesterday we now officially have FIOS
>at our farm.
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>				Went from 3Mbps to around 30 measured average.
>Yay.
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>				It's a business account, Frontier.  But...still
>no IPv6.
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>				The new router's capable of it.  What's the hold
>up?
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>				Customer service's response is "We don't offer
>that".
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