OpenDNS CGNAT Issues

Matt Hoppes mattlists at rivervalleyinternet.net
Tue Sep 11 13:31:56 UTC 2018


So don't CGNat?  Buy IPv4 addresses at auction?

On 9/11/18 9:28 AM, Ca By wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 6:04 AM Matt Hoppes 
> <mattlists at rivervalleyinternet.net 
> <mailto:mattlists at rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
> 
>     That isn’t a solution. He still will need to dual stack and CGNat that.
> 
> 
> But the flows that can support ipv6, will go ipv6 and not be subject to 
> these abuse triggers.
> 
> Look, this list has monthly reports from some small network operator 
> hurting their customers with CGN NAT. Meanwhile, the big guys like 
> Comcast / Charter / ATT / Cox have moved onto ipv6.
> 
> Where does that leave the little guy with CGN?
> 
> Right here. Screaming into the avoid begging for help. Some special 
> exception.
> 
> And, me, saying you had 10+ years of not deploying ipv6.  Here’s to the 
> next 10 years of you email this list about your own failure to keep up 
> with the times.
> 
> We will have this discussion again and again.  Not sure your customers 
> will stick around, all they know is your CGN space got black listed from 
> yet another service
> 
> #realtalk
> 
> 
>     On Sep 11, 2018, at 08:54, Ca By <cb.list6 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:cb.list6 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
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>>
>>     On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 9:12 PM Darin Steffl
>>     <darin.steffl at mnwifi.com <mailto:darin.steffl at mnwifi.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hello,
>>
>>         I have a ticket open with OpenDNS about filtering happening on
>>         some of our CGNAT IP space where a customer has "claimed" the
>>         IP as theirs so other customers using that same IP and OpenDNS
>>         are being filtered and not able to access sites that fall
>>         under their chosen filter.
>>
>>         I have a ticket open from 6 days ago but it's not going
>>         anywhere fast.
>>
>>         Can someone from OpenDNS contact me or point me to a contact
>>         there to help get this resolved? I believe we need to claim
>>         our CGNAT IP space so residential users can't claim IP's of
>>         their own.
>>
>>         Thank you!
>>
>>
>>     You should provide your users ipv6, opendns supports ipv6 and
>>     likely will not have this issue you see
>>
>>     https://www.opendns.com/about/innovations/ipv6/
>>
>>     I am sure it may cost you time / money / effort. But this old
>>     thing we call ipv4 is in a death spiral, and it will just get
>>     worse and worse for you without ipv6.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         -- 
>>         Darin Steffl
>>         Minnesota WiFi
>>         www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
>>         507-634-WiFi
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