Internet diameter?

Casey Russell crussell at kanren.net
Mon Nov 26 14:18:36 UTC 2018


It's not exactly a measurement of "user to content" but CAIDA has swarms of
Raspberry Pi nodes all over the world, that constantly measure... well, a
lot of things, but they continually also monitor traceroute paths to each
other.  If you're looking for a "average length from any one node to any
other node on the Internet" you'd likely find some good data points here.

https://www.caida.org/projects/ark/statistics/

Sincerely,
Casey Russell
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On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 11:10 AM Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 8:48 PM Hal Murray <
> hgm+nanog at ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Keith Medcalf  said:
>> > "just static content" would be more accurate ...
>>
>>   and using http rather than https
>>
>> > There were many attempts at this by Johhny-cum-lately ISPs back in the
>> 90's
>> > -- particularly Telco and Cableco's -- with their "transparent poxies".
>> > Eventually they discovered that it was more cost efficient to actually
>> > provide the customer with what the customer had purchased.
>>
>> One of the complications in this area is an extra layer of logging which
>> could
>> turn into privacy invasion.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure it was Comcast, but a quick search didn't find a good
>> reference.  Many years ago, there were a lot of complaints when customers
>>
>
> did you mean the 'sandvine experiment' that happened ~10 yrs back?
> or did you mean the plan verizon had to proxy all http/https traffic from
> consumer (fios/dsl) links through their gear so they could replace ad
> content and such?
> or did you mean the various (barefruit/nominim/paxfire) dns fake-answer
> companies that dropped your customer on their "search platform" for
> monetization?
>
> fairly much all of those are a wreck for consumer privacy :(
>
>
>> discovered that their transparent proxy web site traffic was getting
>> logged.
>> Comcast said they weren't using it for anything beyond normal operations
>> work,
>> but nobody believed them.  Shortly after that, they gave up on proxying.
>>
>> I'm sure the general reputation of modern Telcos and Cablecos for privacy
>> invasion didn't help.
>>
>>
> it's a rough business to be in, they say... but invading privacy of their
> users makes things seem a heck of a lot worse.
>
>
>>
>> --
>> These are my opinions.  I hate spam.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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