Qu??bec Sales tax

Wed Mar 28 21:57:45 UTC 2018

bell canada?

/kc

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 05:45:26PM -0400, Alain Hebert said:
  >?????? Same deal as Paypal and EBay.
  >
  >?????? Netflix dropping their services in CDN/QC only serve <Yuo know who>
  >attempt at making yet another market grab.
  >
  >
  >?????? At the end Netflix may just charge the Tax and funnel it to the
  >govt.?? They'll still be making a bundle.
  >
  >?????? ?????? ( And with all the hardware already deployed locally at the
  >many exchanges ... )
  >
  >
  >?????? Now if we can only break that damn 1930's licensing scheme so that
  >we can gain access to more content...?? Kinda annoyed that <You know who>
  >is hogging all the content with their vertical licensing agreements.
  >
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  >Alain Hebert                                ahebert at pubnix.net
  >PubNIX Inc.
  >50 boul. St-Charles
  >P.O. Box 26770     Beaconsfield, Quebec     H9W 6G7
  >Tel: 514-990-5911  http://www.pubnix.net    Fax: 514-990-9443
  >
  >On 03/27/18 18:21, Ken Chase wrote:
  >>If Netflix has no physical presence in Quebec, what the lever are they going
  >>to use to force this? A lawsuit in <state of netflix incorporation> in the
  >>US? What court is going to entertain a foreign jurisdiction's tax claim in
  >>their court? And how would that be then enforced?
  >>
  >>Canada has tried this before:
  >>
  >>https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/u-s-judge-puts-halt-to-canadian-court-order-for-google-to-delist-search-results-1.3663055
  >>
  >>Court file: https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/16701/index.do
  >>
  >>Im a big fan of Canada standing up for its sovereignty (I live here), but nice
  >>try.
  >>
  >>/kc
  >>
  >>
  >>On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 06:10:51PM -0400, Jean-Francois Mezei said:
  >>   >Not quite networking but probably relevant.
  >>   >
  >>   >The Canadian province of Qu??bec just introduced a new budget with
  >>   >basically the intent to force foreign digital companies who sell
  >>   >services to Qu??bekers to collect the local value added sales tax and
  >>   >remit those to the QC government.
  >>   >
  >>   >The goal is to capture tax from Netflix who has so far escaped taxation
  >>   >in Canada by having no legal/physical presence in Canada, no cache
  >>   >servers of its own etc. Netflix does not currently collect province
  >>   >information from customers (or any address info for that matter).
  >>   >
  >>   >They based many of their arguments on an OECD study (which ironically
  >>   >the Canadian federal government says is not completed yet (as excuse for
  >>   >not proceeding with similar tax).
  >>   >
  >>   >So foreign digital services will be required to require subscibers enter
  >>   >AND VALIDATE their address so that they have an accurate province field
  >>   >(validation remains to be finalized), and IF they sell more than $30,000
  >>   >to Qu??bec residents, will be required to self register with QC
  >>   >government to collect local sales tax (and remit to QC government).
  >>   >
  >>   >The Qu??bec budget expects that validation of address will be based on IP
  >>   >address geolocation or custoemrs send paper bills to prove place of
  >>   >residence.
  >>   >
  >>   >(Although requiring full address/phone number and sendint this to credit
  >>   >card network for authorization might constitute a better means to
  >>   >validate address).
  >>   >
  >>   >I suspect the big winners will be VPN services in the USA :-)
  >>   >
  >>   >Because many ISPs span multiple provinces, IP geolocation generally
  >>   >points to their HQ address, not necessarily the province of the
  >>   >subscriber. (This is especially true for DSL in bell Canada wholesale
  >>   >where currently a single point of connection between Bell and ISP allows
  >>   >full reach of all of its DSL territory in QC/ON. For Cable, ISPs require
  >>   >different IP pools for Rogers in Ontario and Vid??otron in Ontario (with
  >>   >a couple of exceptions where Vid??otron has service in a couple fo
  >>   >Ontario towns). In Western Canada, things are harder as Shaw serves BC,
  >>   >AB, SASK and MB.
  >>
  >>--
  >>Ken Chase - math at sizone.org Guelph Canada
  >>
  >

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Ken Chase - math at sizone.org Guelph Canada