Qu??bec Sales tax

Wed Mar 28 21:45:26 UTC 2018

     Same deal as Paypal and EBay.

     Netflix dropping their services in CDN/QC only serve <Yuo know who> 
attempt at making yet another market grab.

     At the end Netflix may just charge the Tax and funnel it to the 
govt.  They'll still be making a bundle.

         ( And with all the hardware already deployed locally at the 
many exchanges ... )

     Now if we can only break that damn 1930's licensing scheme so that 
we can gain access to more content...  Kinda annoyed that <You know who> 
is hogging all the content with their vertical licensing agreements.

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On 03/27/18 18:21, Ken Chase wrote:
> If Netflix has no physical presence in Quebec, what the lever are they going
> to use to force this? A lawsuit in <state of netflix incorporation> in the
> US? What court is going to entertain a foreign jurisdiction's tax claim in
> their court? And how would that be then enforced?
>
> Canada has tried this before:
>
> https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/u-s-judge-puts-halt-to-canadian-court-order-for-google-to-delist-search-results-1.3663055
>
> Court file: https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/16701/index.do
>
> Im a big fan of Canada standing up for its sovereignty (I live here), but nice
> try.
>
> /kc
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 06:10:51PM -0400, Jean-Francois Mezei said:
>    >Not quite networking but probably relevant.
>    >
>    >The Canadian province of Qu??bec just introduced a new budget with
>    >basically the intent to force foreign digital companies who sell
>    >services to Qu??bekers to collect the local value added sales tax and
>    >remit those to the QC government.
>    >
>    >The goal is to capture tax from Netflix who has so far escaped taxation
>    >in Canada by having no legal/physical presence in Canada, no cache
>    >servers of its own etc. Netflix does not currently collect province
>    >information from customers (or any address info for that matter).
>    >
>    >They based many of their arguments on an OECD study (which ironically
>    >the Canadian federal government says is not completed yet (as excuse for
>    >not proceeding with similar tax).
>    >
>    >So foreign digital services will be required to require subscibers enter
>    >AND VALIDATE their address so that they have an accurate province field
>    >(validation remains to be finalized), and IF they sell more than $30,000
>    >to Qu??bec residents, will be required to self register with QC
>    >government to collect local sales tax (and remit to QC government).
>    >
>    >The Qu??bec budget expects that validation of address will be based on IP
>    >address geolocation or custoemrs send paper bills to prove place of
>    >residence.
>    >
>    >(Although requiring full address/phone number and sendint this to credit
>    >card network for authorization might constitute a better means to
>    >validate address).
>    >
>    >I suspect the big winners will be VPN services in the USA :-)
>    >
>    >Because many ISPs span multiple provinces, IP geolocation generally
>    >points to their HQ address, not necessarily the province of the
>    >subscriber. (This is especially true for DSL in bell Canada wholesale
>    >where currently a single point of connection between Bell and ISP allows
>    >full reach of all of its DSL territory in QC/ON. For Cable, ISPs require
>    >different IP pools for Rogers in Ontario and Vid??otron in Ontario (with
>    >a couple of exceptions where Vid??otron has service in a couple fo
>    >Ontario towns). In Western Canada, things are harder as Shaw serves BC,
>    >AB, SASK and MB.
>
> --
> Ken Chase - math at sizone.org Guelph Canada
>