IPv6 faster/better proof? was Re: Need /24 (arin) asap

Jared Mauch jared at puck.nether.net
Sat Jun 23 11:17:15 UTC 2018


> On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka at seacom.mu> wrote:
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> On 22/Jun/18 15:05, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG wrote:
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>> I’m not really sure “you get what you pay for” … compare with OpenWRT … you have frequent updates, even in days when some important security flaw is discovered, as it happened a few months ago with WiFi. You can even develop yourself what you want or pay folks to do it for you.
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> No one disputes that, but there is a reason why operators are paying for
> MikroTik instead of taking a white box and flashing it with free code
> from any number of sources.
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> They could either spend time developing free code on white boxes to a
> level where it does everything they want, or they could decide for what
> MikroTik offers for an integrated solution (hardware + software), the
> time and effort are outweighed by the cost, as a function of traditional
> alternatives such as Cisco, Juniper, Nokia, Brocade, e.t.c.
> 
> Joe Average has neither the experience nor the inclination to flash
> whatever box he has with OpenWRT. You and I do (well, I've grown lazy,
> so...). Copy & paste for FTTH service providers dealing with thousands
> or millions of customers who want to pay nothing for 1Gbps to their
> house, and you quickly see why this is not an easy problem to solve.

I’ve found most folks doing Tik need the GUI, etc to interact with the devices.  I can’t say I blame them in some ways either.  Have you tried to upgrade an IOS-XR device before?  One-click updates in Tik are much easier.  Even UBNT it’s fairly straightforward.  Personally I use Tik for layer-2 stuff, be it media converters or switches where there’s not some other alternative that makes more sense.  I’m comfortable with a CLI, but most people I’ve tried to say “hey, use this it’s better” say “I can’t http/https to it, the learning curve is too steep”.

- Jared


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