Rising sea levels are going to mess with the internet

Thu Jul 26 16:58:11 UTC 2018

Science https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/

Give the data yourself.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 12:50 PM Rod Beck <rod.beck at unitedcablecompany.com>
wrote:

> Unfortunately, the science community disagrees with Rob and you.
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> Have a great day, big guy.
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> Regards,
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> Roderick.
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> ________________________________
> From: Mel Beckman <mel at beckman.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:16 PM
> To: Rod Beck
> Cc: Rob McEwen; nanog at nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Rising sea levels are going to mess with the internet
>
> Well, Rod, you just made a claim with zero support, while Rob provided
> accurate citations proving every one of his statements.
>
> But it’s not wasting our time with the Fiber Optic Networks Are Doomed by
> Sea Level Rise society :)
>
> See what I did there? I brought the discussion back to the original claim,
> which I think has now been finally thoroughly debunked. Sea levels no more
> threaten the Internet than marshmallows. Less, probably :)
>
>  -mel
>
> > On Jul 26, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Rod Beck <rod.beck at unitedcablecompany.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, Rob, you are wrong on almost every point. But it is not wasting
> our time with the Flat Earth society.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Roderick.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces at nanog.org> on behalf of Rob McEwen <
> rob at invaluement.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 4:52 AM
> > To: nanog at nanog.org
> > Subject: Re: Rising sea levels are going to mess with the internet
> >
> > For the past 100+ years, the sea levels have been rising by about 2-4 mm
> > per year. If you go to the following two sites:
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> > https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html
> [http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/apple-icon-144x144.png]<
> https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html>
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> Is sea level rising? - NOAA's National Ocean Service<
> https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html>
> oceanservice.noaa.gov
> There is strong evidence that sea level is rising and will continue to
> rise this century at increasing rates.
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> > [http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/apple-icon-144x144.png]<
> https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html>
> >
> > Is sea level rising? - NOAA's National Ocean Service<
> https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html>
> > oceanservice.noaa.gov
> > There is strong evidence that sea level is rising and will continue to
> rise this century at increasing rates.
> >
> >
> > https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/
> >
> > You'll see all kinds of scary language about dire predictions about how
> > the sea levels are rising and accelerating. And you'll see SCARY charts
> > that look like Mt. Everest. But when you dig into the actual data,
> > you'll find that there MIGHT have been (at most!) a CUMULATIVE 1mm/year
> > acceleration... but even that took about 4 decades to materialize, it
> > could be somewhat within the margin of error, and it might be a part of
> > the fake data that often drives this debate. Meanwhile, global warming
> > alarmists have ALREADY made MANY dire predictions about oceans levels
> > rising - that ALREADY didn't even come close to true.
> >
> > The bottom line is that there is no trend of recently observed sea level
> > rising data that is even close to being on track to hit all these dire
> > predictions within the foreseeable future. And even as the West has
> > reduced (or lessened the acceleration of) CO2 emissions - this has been
> > easily made up for by the CO2 emission increases caused by the
> > modernization of China and India in recent decades.
> >
> > And, again, there were articles like this 10, 15, and even 20 years ago
> > that made very similar predictions - that didn't happen. So, it is hard
> > to believe that the dire predictions in this article could come true in
> > 15 years.
> >
> > But I suppose that it might be a good idea to take inventory of the
> > absolute lowest altitude cables and make sure that they are not
> > vulnerable to the type of flooding that might happen more often after a
> > few decades from now after the ocean has further risen about 2 inches?
> > But the sky is not falling anytime soon.
> >
> > Rob McEwen
> >
> >
> >> On 7/22/2018 9:01 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
> >> https://www.popsci.com/sea-level-rise-internet-infrastructure
> >>
> >> Rising sea levels are going to mess with the internet, sooner than you
> >> think
> >>
> >> [...]
> >> Despite its magnitude, this network is increasingly vulnerable to sea
> >> levels inching their way higher, according to research presented at an
> >> academic conference in Montreal this week. The findings estimate that
> >> within 15 years, thousands of miles of what should be land-bound
> >> cables in the United States will be submerged underwater.
> >>
> >> “Most of the climate change-related impacts are going to happen very
> >> soon,” says Paul Barford, a computer scientist at the University of
> >> Wisconsin and lead author of the paper.
> >> [...]
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Rob McEwen
> >
>

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