(perhaps off topic, but) Microwave Towers

Keefe John kjohn at ethoplex.com
Tue Jul 17 03:12:34 UTC 2018


 As Mike points out, there are a lot of us doing fixed-wireless / microwave
now.

We have our own industry.  See: http://wispa.org/

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On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Michael Crapse <michael at wi-fiber.io>
wrote:

> Microwave radios are the things that break the mold of the incorrect
> assumption that just because it doesn't make sense to put up more wires to
> a house you can't have more than one provider. Considering that we've
> deployed a few wireless systems with less latency, jitter, and downtime
> than the local incumbent DOCSIS provider. In fact the greatest benefit to
> wireless microwave systems is the fact that they do not need to follow the
> right of way. Where wireline and fiberoptics must go through more hubs to
> get from side of town to the other, wireless is a point to point system
> with latencies+jitter sub 400 microseconds.
>
> No matter how great the incumbent fiber/dsl/coaxial network becomes, there
> will always be new microwave links going up. For their biggest strengths
> there's no replacement.
> Now, their weaknesses may be many, and may be apparent, their stengths just
> outweigh those.
>
> On 16 July 2018 at 10:01, Mike Hammett <nanog at ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> > No idea where you were at, but lots of big companies have done microwave
> > and lots of new companies do microwave.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCI_Communications
> >
> > MCI was founded as Microwave Communications, Inc. on October 3, 1963 with
> > John D. Goeken being named the company's first president. The initial
> > business plan was for the company to build a series of microwave relay
> > stations between Chicago, Illinois and St. Louis, Missouri. The relay
> > stations would then be used to interface with limited-range two-way
> radios
> > used by truckers along U.S. Route 66 or by barges on the Illinois
> Waterway.
> >
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_Corporation
> >
> > Southern Pacific maintained an extensive microwave communications system
> > along its rights-of-way that the railroad used for internal
> communications.
> >
> >
> > AT&T had a bunch and I think a couple sites are still active:
> > http://long-lines.net/
> >
> > Western Union had a microwave network as well.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lots of companies build microwave for internal communications. Rail and
> > utility companies are big here.
> >
> > All of the cell companies do some microwave in their more rural areas.
> >
> > Lots of independent ISPs use microwave to build their entire network.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> > Midwest-IX
> > http://www.midwest-ix.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Miles Fidelman" <mfidelman at meetinghouse.net>
> > To: nanog at nanog.org
> > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 9:54:25 AM
> > Subject: (perhaps off topic, but) Microwave Towers
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I find myself driving down Route 66. On our way through Arizona, I was
> > surprised by what look like a lot of old-style microwave links. They
> > pretty much follow the East-West rail line - where I'd expect there's a
> > lot of fiber buried.
> >
> > Struck me as somewhat interesting.
> >
> > It also struck me that folks here might have some comments.
> >
> > Miles Fidelman
> >
> > --
> > In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
> > In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
> >
> >
> >
>



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