Cogent vs. HE ;-) WAS: Anyone using Cogent Ethernet

Tue Jan 23 14:12:07 UTC 2018

If only they had decent BGP community support. 

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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Martin List-Petersen" <martin at airwire.ie> 
To: "Michael Crapse" <michael at wi-fiber.io> 
Cc: "Mike Hammett" <nanog at ics-il.net>, "NANOG list" <nanog at nanog.org> 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 8:24:46 PM 
Subject: Re: Anyone using Cogent Ethernet 

On 23/01/18 02:12, Michael Crapse wrote: 
> Tier 1 just means they don't pay for ip transit themselves, only Peering. 
> Doesn't mean that it's good transit. 
> Best provider i've ever used is hurricane electric, actually a tier 2 
> provider, but bigger/better than many tier 1s. 

I'd still categorise Hurricane a lot better than Cogent. 

Both quality and customer service wise. 

/M 

> On 22 January 2018 at 19:07, Martin List-Petersen <martin at airwire.ie> wrote: 
> 
>> On 22/01/18 20:05, Mike Hammett wrote: 
>> 
>>> I much prefer using WDM transport as opposed to Ethernet\VPLS transport 
>>> due to it being significantly harder (I try not to say impossible) to 
>>> oversubscribe. That said, it isn't always available at a decent rate at a 
>>> given location. 
>>> 
>>> Cogent has a reputation (right or wrong) for running things a little hot. 
>>> 
>>> Have any of you used Cogent Ethernet\VPLS services? What are you 
>>> experiences? Offlist is fine if you don't want it public. 
>>> 
>> 
>> Never use them without a backup alternative. I've seen more outages, that 
>> one would want to ever see from a provider, that would like to be 
>> categorised as Tier1. 
>> 
>> Especially, when some of these are longer than expected, because there 
>> were no cold-spares in the country and the cold-spare needed missed the 
>> flight. 
>> 
>> /M 
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