[NANOG] Re: unwise filtering policy on abuse mailboxes

Jim Popovitch jimpop at domainmail.org
Wed Aug 1 15:56:02 UTC 2018


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On Wed, 2018-08-01 at 11:19 -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> 1. They needed to stop doing so a few decades ago.  Anybody still
> doing it today is doing it on purpose, which of course leads directly
> to the question: why?

One reason as to "why" is that there is no good way to specify an
alternate abuse@ address, where said alternate abuse address is on a
completely different (sub)?domain, ala ruf/rua=.  So then it becomes an
issue of not filtering the base domain, which would be a massive
headache for those who follow the 2 age-old smtp golden rules: 

 -- "never accept email you can't deliver"

 -- "reject at connect, never bounce"


49% of folks would've said whois could have been a great place for an
Abuse contact... and another 49% would say security.txt is the place. 
The end result is there is zero standard nor recommended way, imho.

- -Jim P.
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